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Help me to find Rational or Irrational
By M_A_Noman, 14 months ago, In English

Help me to know whether there are any processes in C++ by applying which I can find out whether the decimal representation of p/q is a rational number or an irrational number.

For example 10/4 = 2.5 is a rational number where 10/3 = 3.3333333 is an irrational number

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14 months ago, # |
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p/q is always a rational number by definition.

I think you meant whether decimal representation of p/q terminates or not, for that:

let d=q/gcd(p,q)

if d has only 2 and 5 as its prime factors, its decimal representation terminates, else it doesn't

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    14 months ago, # ^ |
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    Thanks, brother I  actually want to know that.

    But I also want to know if d has only 2 or only 5 as its prime factor then its decimal representation terminates or the number d should contain at least one 2 and one 5 in its prime factorization

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      14 months ago, # ^ |
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      d can have both 2 and 5 as its prime factors

      the condition is: d should not have any other prime factor except 2 and 5

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        14 months ago, # ^ |
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        where can I read more about this? Is there a name for this?

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          14 months ago, # ^ |
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          umm, i know this from my mid/high school curriculum. so i dont know any reading materials.

          i dont think there is a specific name for this, you can search it like:when is the decimal representation of a rational number terminating?

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        14 months ago, # ^ |
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        Let me explain my confusion

        let p = 10 and q = 4
then gcd(p,q)=2
d = q/gcd(p,q)=2
d has prime factor 2 so this p/q is a rational number am I right?
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          14 months ago, # ^ |
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          as i said in the original comment, ANY p/q is a rational number.

          so, 10/3, 59/69, 69/435666828 all are rational numbers

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          some rational numbers have terminating decimals, for example 10/4=2.5 (terminating decimal)

          some rational numbers have non-terminating but repeating decimals, for example 10/3=3.3333333333333.......

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            14 months ago, # ^ |
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            My final query

            In your given example 10/4 has a terminating decimal because 4/gcd(10,4) has prime factor 2

            and 10/3 does not have any prime factor 2 or 5. That is why it does not have any terminating decimal point.

            Isn't it?

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              14 months ago, # ^ |
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              yes,

              in 10/4, d=4/gcd(10,4)=4/2=2, d only has 2 as its prime factor. so decimal representation of 10/4 is terminating (2.5)

              while in case of 10/3, d=3/gcd(10,3)=3/1=3, which has 3 as its prime factor (a number different from 2 and 5). So, its decimal representation is repeating (3.3333...)

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