Блог пользователя antontrygubO_o

Автор antontrygubO_o, 3 года назад, перевод, По-русски

Я знаю, что много кого здесь волнует война в Украине. Если вы ищете способы помочь, перейдите по этой ссылке: http://linktr.ee/help_ukraine_global. Любая поддержка и помощь имеют значение.

Пожалуйста, помогите остановить кровавого диктатора нашего соседа.

UPD1: Еще один отличный сайт

UPD2: С этим сайтом вы можете помочь показать жителям России показать, что на самом деле происходит в Украине. Спасибо этому посту.

UPD3: Если в вашем CF профиле страной была указана Украина на момент публикации этого блога, и у вас еще нет аккаунта Crowdforces, вы можете создать его по этой ссылке: https://nearcrowd.com/crowdforces, и получить 12 Near (что сейчас около 100$).

Вы можете найти более подробные инструкции здесь. Этот документ на данный момент доступен только на украинском. Пожалуйста, используйте данные средства с максимальной пользой.

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antontrygubO_o did you participate in Hashcode 2022?

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antontrygubO_o How Can I sign up for Ukrainian army I am not From Ukraine but I want to defend innocent lives ?

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    Best way to defend civilians now is by making Ukraine surrender. Instead of being emotional Ukraine needs to know they can't defend themselves from Russia. It is hard to to accept but Ukrainians need to know the helplessness. Specially considering the fact that people the govt thought gonna help withdraw their troops even before Russian troops landed on Ukraine. Joining Ukrainian army will not help anyway.

    Of course considering situations and humans involved chance of it happening is quite low. Also govt started handing out weapons to civilians which inevitably will increase/increasing civilian casualty and wont delay the occupation for long.

    I don't think sanctions help in the long run as govt finds alternative way. Under sanctions ordinary people suffer.

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      Best way to defend civilians now is by making Ukraine surrender.

      Unfortunately it doesn't work this way: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uk_6vfqwTA&t=366s

      I honestly don't know what can be done right now to prevent the worst possible scenario from unfolding. I can only suggest the Russian citizens to first talk to their families and friends to reach a clear consensus about the fact that the war and violence is a bad thing. And then maybe relay this message to their government, convincing Putin or the other higher-ups to stop the war.

      Also beware that the social networks are being monitored and it's unlikely that the codeforces platform is exempt from this. As for myself, I'm not going to post anything that may be misinterpreted as if I'm trying to escalate further violence. And at this point I have no intention to sponsor either side's war efforts, because I don't want to have anyone's blood on my hands. Sorry for being an indecisive coward.

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        War and violence is very bad thing, but guy who declined piece coversation was Zelenskyy, not Putin. Russia put at stake so much, that withdrawing the troups on Ukrainian conditions will be catastrophe for our country. So yes, if you wanna piece now, you should ask Zelenskyy, not Putin.

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          Russia put at stake so much, that withdrawing the troups on Ukrainian conditions will be catastrophe for our country.

          More like it will be a catastrophe for a single seemingly demented geezer, who doesn't have long to live because of old age. But he might be trying to drag the whole world with him to the grave. Do you think that you are safe and won't be affected by this war? Or are you ready and willing to die for some nonsense reasons?

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          What should Zelenskyy do? Talk about "oppression of Russian speakers" in Donbas? Negotiate with a Ponzi Scheme fraudster? Kill Ukrainian future by giving these guys veto powers?

          There can be a debate on how bad/good were the interventions by other countries, however one thing is clear that Russia is and was always a barbarian state and everywhere it went and currently is, it always brings famine, repression, gulag, propaganda etc. No Ukrainian president will accept that.

          Enjoy your "additional chromosome", глубинный народ.

          EDIT: If you don't understand the context, the current negociator on the Russian side once was talking about Russians being so great that they have "additional chromosome", so I added this to show how ridiculous all this propaganda is. The second term "глубинный народ" was coined by the former person responsible for Ukraine in Russia and it is constantly used by some Russian dissidents to ridicule and describe the ardent supporters of neo-Soviet ideas,"Russian World" and so on. The "enjoy" part is because the person above is behaving like some supporters, who would not agree to full scale war, but would be okay with grabbing "peacefully" a piece of land like with Crimea.

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            Additional chromosome and barbarian state? Let it be. I woulnd't even speak anything about world history and double standarts. Just one moment: in all discussions on CF no one from Russia said something bad about whole other countries and their people. You are doing this, little raсist, ironic that you are in USA now (according CF), with slogans about stopping raсism. Well, at least you reseted your mask.

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              First, "additional chromosome" is the quote from you ministry of education (he said "Russians have a an additional chromosome"). Second, I did say "something bad" about other country, but not "their people", do your part if you want to be separated, both here and in Russia. Third, while you are aggressor, you should shut up about saying something bad and not blame the victim. Fourth, when your country withdraws your forces from every country that doesn't want them, it will be just the beginning for you to have the moral ground to talk about "racism".

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                I dont wanna convince you in anything, seems like it is impossible. Saying this the country, which destroyes nazism, brings only famine and repressions? Okay. Enjoy your "additional chromosome", глубинный народ is not about citizens? Okay. If you cant see anything wrong in your message — well, okay. But it is really funny to listen this from guy which is in USA now (especially fourth point).

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                  Yes, Russia was the only country to fight Nazi Germany. Some other countries at least never allied with it at the beginning. Also yes, repressions are possible only by nazism.

                  "Enjoy your "additional chromosome", глубинный народ" — you started with propagandistic slogans you can hear from propagandists. I follow with quotation of propagandictic slogans, I added "enjoy" to highlight to what exactly it this play with "greatness" bring. You are just proving my point by saying that you and your country are so innocent because they were on the right side at the end of the war during WW2.

                  Why are you obsessed with my location? I'm not an American.

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                  Obsessed? I just see some irony in it.

                  Anyway, i'm tired of this discussion. I can just repeat what i said — if you cant see anything wrong in your message — okay.

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                  By country, which destroys nazism, you mean Russia?

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                A little hint as to why you or any other American has no right to blame our state. It's cool to promote the peace when your country is bombed by whatever it wants.

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                  I'm not an American.

                  Though some of these accusations are dubious, UN security council approved the Afghanistan invasion, which includes Russia. A lot of these ones are also very bogus. US invaded Afghanistan twice? The coalition against Iraq when it invaded Kuwait was very big and has overwhelming international support. I'm all for all the intervention against Soviet Union in Europe and Korea, I would not want South Koreans or Europeans to live in that political system. Some of them like Latin American are questionable. A picture from twitter does not explain the full context. Furthermore, even if you don't agree with all of them, it does not justify what's going on right now.

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            This comment is just disgusting. Who the hell are you to insult our whole nation? We Russians may have varying opinions on the actions of our state, some support them, some condemn them, but you just told our entire people to "enjoy our additional chromosomes".

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              When I said "глубинный народ", I put the phrase on purpose, not "Russian people", to distinguish between those who support or not. I should've made it clearer.

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                At least you could have rephrased your comment and apologized to the people you insulted.

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                  I added an background. I addressed my message to the person I replied and I will not apologize to him. I know most Russians on Codeforces don't support that, so this is why I responded only to these type of intellectual apologists.

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    Link

    "Foreigners willing to defend Ukraine and world order as part of the International Legion of Territorial Defense of Ukraine, I invite you to contact foreign diplomatic missions of Ukraine in your respective countries. Together we defeated Hitler, and we will defeat Putin, too."

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can someone confirm that the donation bank account is legitimate?

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Unconditioned support to all Ukraine people that are heroically resisting and to all Ukraine people that are not able to actively resist and that are trying to escape.

As well as unconditioned support to all Russian and Belarus people that are bravely having the courage to protest. The viral video from St Petersburg — wonderful town which I think is the home town of Codeforces (besides unfortunately of the Vozd) — in which a girl is hit by the police because she is raising a sign with Russian and Ukraine flag in the peace symbol, is definitely on the wrong side of history. I like to imagine that Codeforcers are in that St Petersburg square protesting. I would be there.

And unconditioned support to all Russian and Belarus people that are not in the conditions to protest, also to protect their families, but that are forced to suffer the dictatorship de facto.

Unconditioned support to all people acting to make the world a better place.

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Yeah , your fucking country policemen and army held Indian students and beat them when they are leaving your country because India abstains from vote against Russia at UNSC , and you expect HELP ?? I also supported Ukraine till now but after today i think Russia is doing right .

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    I am sincerely sorry for my last comment, I was just angry because of the videos I saw and could not refrain from doing so. I never wished for people to suffer. I hope peaceful days come soon.

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      Yes bro , i also expect my comment to get deleted , all CF want is protect their reputation in front of ukrainian programmers , the didn't delete political posts till date from any users who support ukraine and they will delete this comment because we speak for our country , that is the sad reality !

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        all CF want is protect their reputation in front of ukrainian programmers ,

        how the fuck did you come to this conclusion?

        are you one of these people who thinks that if they come up with an explanation and it kinda would make sense, it must therefore be correct?

        i hope you realize that this demonstrated lack of thinking skills will also make others reflect on the reliability of your other comments

        for example, for me it is very hard to believe that someone who jumps to conclusions like that is even mentally capable of reading and understanding a news article

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    I am sincerely sorry that your students faced bad treatment at the border. It is unacceptable. Now is a difficult time, tens of thousands of people, especially families with children, are trying to cross the border to get shelter, many are on the brink psychologically and the situation is very tense. Please don't judge the whole nation because of such an event. There are 20 thousand students from India studying in Ukraine, I think that many of them have good things to say about our people.

    I found the original video and news about this incident. Also I found information that may explain (not justify) the situation: https://twitter.com/IndiainPoland/status/1497221153131307009 There is a crossing, which allows only vehicles, while your students constantly tried to cross it on foot. So most likely it has absolutely nothing to do with the nationality of your students.

    I have to add that it's sad that news like this on your TV without real context generates such a negative reaction as in your messages.

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      Some things I want to say.

      Ofcourse its not your people's fault, they all want to save their lives and I hope they stay safe. Its your army and policemen.

      I see the notice that you provided in the link, but the students there were not aware of it, they are just doing what the embassy is asking them to do without questions to survive. However that does not justify the beating and harrassment our citizens are facing.

      You don't know how outrageous those videos are.

      Yes, I agree that our TV is ridiculous but the thing is, they are showing Russ — Ukraine scenario not the condition of students. Besides I don't consider our TV news as credible source of information.

      When russia hurt your citizens, i am sure people were like fuck russia, it is the same thing so why it is not justified.

      My negative reaction comes from those videos where our male citizens are being beaten, female citizens are being harassed. Do you think that your comment justify that?

      The fact that there will be downvotes means people are in denial, I don't realise why?

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        As I wrote, I don't justify such rudeness, but I explain that some of your and news statements are not correct and why such situation could actually happen. We don't see the full picture, and we can't be sure that the girl didn't describe everything too exaggeratedly. We don't know, probably border guards described the situations to your students, but they didn't want to go back and blocked the long line of cars behind them. Could it be?

        And again, this has nothing to do with nationalities, I'm sure that most of that guys couldn't name countries which didn't vote against Russia at UNSC, as not everyone tracks that :)

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        Deleted, because JustTrolling_Alt asked me too.

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          You are comparing beating by guns and rods by Ukrainian fucker mother's police with beating Indian people by plastic rods? Fuck you ! Some people like you and your government deserve to be destroyed by Russia :)

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          Those two are completely unrelated and I'm sure you know that, there was a rule for complete lock down and it was an order from higher authority to take action against people who break the curfew. Indian mindset take these things lightly and yes, we people do urge government to take action against policemen where they were in the wrong. Like i said, it is completely unrelated.

          Here, I am sitting on my desk can't possibly understand the feeling of those citizens, they feel completely helpless. Think about it, you are very far from your homeland and amid war you don't know what you are supposed to do and the army beat you for no reason.

          I ask you to please remove the link

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            I expressed my regrets about the situation, explained your mistake and explained the possible reason. The video is unrelated. I don’t see the point in you ignoring my words and even starting to blame me personally. And your trash-talking friend Hacker-M is just an idiot. Goodbye.

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            There are so many alt accounts in this thread so I start to mix up some answers in my head.
            The messages like "F*CK UKRAINE", "Russia is doing right", and "you deserve to be destroyed" because of possibly inappropriately used force by some border guards in a tough situation — that does not command respect.
            And If you think your anger is righteous, you don't have to hide behind fake accounts.

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              I am not trying to blame you personally, You explained the reason and so I explained my reason for negative reactions. In your second comment, I realized what you were trying to say, you described the possible situation, as you and I don't know, I did not reply to that.

              Then you provided the link which might lead other people in the wrong direction so I explained the situation of that video and sincerely asked you to remove it as you might be unknowingly doing the wrong thing.
              When did I try to blame things on

              I realize my mistake of using abusive words without knowing the full picture. I was angry because of the videos. I apologize for hurting your feelings.

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                Ukraine is literally under attack and there's too much chaos, many of there own civilians face several issue. Moreover most of the students are returning home safely without any problem, you cannot come to a conclusion with just single incidence. If Ukraine was really that unsafe, no way this many students would be studying there.

                PS: I'm not from Ukraine

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My heartfelt greetings to all Ukranians from UK, I hope you find strength and valour during these tough times. Stay safe, I hope we can end this war soon.

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Here are some positive news: CF users (and other viewers) donated over 1000$ yesterday for the Ukraine fund by Red cross https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/errichto.

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    Great action, Errichto! This is HOW you should support Ukraine and peace, instead of donating to military forces.

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During these times of conflict, I feel grateful that I am part of a global community of incredible people who are always willing and able to help out. Through the tough times of the pandemic, we were able to get a huge list of resources in place for members in need around multiple regions, and it really made a difference.

I hope you'll reach out if you need anything. If you or someone you know needs help or knows how help can be found, please let us know how to help our members in your region. We have ways and the means to donate directly to those in need. Thank you!

*Jessie jessie@topcoder.com