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We will hold KEYENCE Programming Contest 2024(AtCoder Beginner Contest 374).

We are looking forward to your participation!

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hope that I can get to 1200 this time

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But why is the page of ABC374 red?

All other competition pages are normal.

Maybe it's an important contest?

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    It is sponsored by KEYENCE. If you search all past KEYENCE sponsored contests on atcoder, all of them have their competition pages red.

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Good luck! And have fun!

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Hope that I can get to 1750 this time.

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Why is the page of ABC374 red?

Because Chinese National Day?

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hope to AC at least 5 problems

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Hope that I can get to 1400 this time.

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I hope F and G will be not abstract

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Hope that I can get to -114514 this time!!!

I'm not strong enough...

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Most of people here are Chinese(including me)!————Happy National Day!

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How to solve problem E? Is it some well known problem?

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    Let's find the minimal cost for $$$i$$$-th process to produce $$$y$$$ products. Assume we bought $$$i$$$ machines of first type and $$$j$$$ machines of second type.

    $$$a \cdot i + b \cdot j \ge y$$$

    $$$p \cdot i + q \cdot j \rightarrow min$$$

    Let the first type of machine be "better" than the second: $$$\frac{a}{p} \ge \frac{b}{q}$$$. If we could buy fraction of machine, then we would use only the first type. But it can be the case, that we it is more effective to buy the second type machine (for example, if it is not effective, but we need only one last product, while the first type machine produces a lot).

    There is one quite known fact: $$$j$$$ is limited by some number. If we have $$$b \cdot (\alpha + \beta)$$$, where $$$j = \alpha + \beta$$$ and $$$b \cdot \alpha$$$ is divisible by $$$a$$$, then we can increase $$$i$$$ by $$$\frac{b \cdot \alpha}{a}$$$ and decrease $$$j$$$ by $$$\alpha$$$. This means, that $$$j$$$ is not greater, than $$$max(a, b)$$$ (in these case, it is possible to choose such $$$\alpha$$$, which is equal to $$$a$$$, so $$$b \cdot \alpha$$$ will be divisible by $$$a$$$).

    So we just check all possible $$$j$$$ from $$$0$$$ to $$$max(a, b)$$$.

    For the whole problem. Use binary search on answer and in check function calculate sum if all these $$$p \cdot i + q \cdot j \rightarrow min$$$ and check if it is not greater than $$$x$$$.

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      Thanks a lot. This explains the reason for jiangly taking the bound to be 100 .

      Thanks for the wonderful explanation

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      Thank you so much for your detailed and clear explanation! I didn't figure out this proof, and instead just made a guess and set the upper bound to 4e4 (at first I tried 1e5 but got TLE and then I changed it to 4e4) to make it AC.

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      Thanks for the insights. I created a video editorial for E: Sensor Optimization Dilemma 2

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Guys solution for problem C?

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    2 ways to do that, both ways involve trying out all possibilities (Notice that N is small here)

    • Backtracking to try both groups for every department.
    • Enumerating all bitmasks which represent which departments will be in group 1 (The bit is off) or group 2 (The bit is on) (For example, if N is 5, a bitmask of 01010 means the first, third and fifth departments will be in group 1, the second and fourth departments will be in group 2).
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in E why the machine costing higher price per product will be atmost 100

check the code of jiangly Link

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    Well I thought it will be at most 15000 but it's hard to believe that it's at most 100.

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    For some machine X, Y, say that X produces A products and Y produces B products. Note that any A machines of type Y can be replaced by B machines of type X, and the amount produced stays the same.

    Now, suppose that Y is more efficient than X. Then, observe that it is never optimal to choose more than B machines of type X, as they can always be exchanged for Y, resulting in the same production but less cost.

    A and B are bounded by 100, hence why jiangly can do this.

    Hope this helps!

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      Note that any A machines of type Y can be replaced by B machines of type X, and the amount produced stays the same.

      how is this true ?

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        ah sorry I didn't explain this too well:

        Each machine of type Y produces B products. Then, A machines of type Y will produce A*B products total.

        If we replace them instead with B machines of type X, each of these new machines produces A products, and there are B of them. So they produce the same amount.

        The only difference between them is cost, and because Y is "more efficient" than X, it will always be better to swap blocks of X for Y when possible.

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Can anyone prove why this solution for E is right? I thought it might have been hacked.

The idea is to purchase mostly the 'better' machine, and enumerate the number of the 'worse' machine from 0 to 15000.

Submission: https://atcoder.jp/contests/abc374/submissions/58472647

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https://atcoder.jp/contests/abc374/submissions/58486583 This is my submission for problem D. Can someone help me check why my solution doesn't even pass the sample inputs? When I run it on my compiler the solution matches with the sample solutions. Thank you!

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    Please remove extra cout << ' ' statements.

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can anyone tell what was the logic on e

i applied ternary search on a binary search but some test cases are giving wrong My submission link

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    53 cases are a lot!

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    do binary search on the answer. now notice that, for each process, one of the machines is better than the other: supose we want to make lcm(Ai, Bi) products using a single machine. then, it will cost Pi * lcm(Ai,Bi)/Ai using the first machine and Qi * lcm(Ai, Bi)/Ai using the second machine. without loss of generality, supose the first machine will require less money to make this amount of products. then, you will never make >= lcm(Ai, Bi)/Bi products using the second machine (you could simply make them using the first machine with a lower cost). then, you can just brute force the amount of times you will use the second (worst) machine, which will be <= lcm(Ai, Bi)/Bi <= Ai products.

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    Same, but I took advantage of small N and did ternary search to reduce the search space to <1e4 lol

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I failed to construct a checker function for my binary search on E, how can I do this?

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Why My Code got Wrong Answer in question E? I can't hack it, Can anyone help me to hack it? It works very well on random datas.

My solution is for each process $$$i$$$, for every $$$a_i \times b_i$$$ product, it is definitely better to choose either all $$$S_i$$$machines or all $$$T_i$$$ machines. The remaining part should not exceed $$$10^4$$$, so it can be solved by brute force.

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I got the solution for E!

For every process i, it is always beneficial to greedily buy the machine with the better output / cost ratio.

So buy that machine as much as possible, and the remainder products needed will be < 100. Now buy the other machine to fill this remainder.

Worst case, the remainder is 99 and the other machine's output is 1, so the quantity we buy will be 99. Thats why the max quantity we will buy of this machine is approx 100.

Submission for reference

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    This is the same as jiangly's idea, Can you prove why it's beneficial to use ratio $$$a_i / p_i$$$ and $$$b_i / q_i$$$?

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    For every process i, it is always beneficial to greedily buy the machine with the better output / cost ratio.

    So buy that machine as much as possible, and the remainder products needed will be < 100. Now buy the other machine to fill this remainder.

    Both the statements are incorrect. You just got lucky with your code, because you haven't implemented what you are thinking. Your code is correct though.

    Greedily buying efficient machines as much as possible is not optimal. In fact, as counter intuitive as it may seem, you need to buy inefficient machines first (explore all possibility instead of buying greedily) and only then should you buy efficient machines.

    I talk about a counter example to your idea in my video

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I screwed myself in E trying to answer the minimum cost for each pair to reach mid in O(1). I don't know why I didn't just loop since the constraints are low.

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Finally, I (would) reach yellow through get a 2400 perf in this contest.

I have struggled 4 years since I play my first contest in AtCoder.

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anyone please tell me problem c approach?

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Will there be english tutorial later? I'd like to check the solution for F and G.

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Can somebody explain please why production capacity in sample#1 of task "E" is 4 if W=min(W1, W2, W3, W4) => W=min(4, 1, 3, 4) = 1, hence production capacity should be 1, not 4?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-w832UQfL4&t=1s I recently created a youtube channel to discuss atcoder solutions. Here's the link for anyone who wants to watch it. It's only my second video so it might not be very good, but I'd be happy if anyone can give me advice!

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My F solution is different from official editorial:

$$$\text{dp[i][j] = {minimum answer, minimum time of last shipment}}$$$

when considering the first $$$i$$$ orders and we shipped the last $$$j$$$ of them together.

Time complexity: $$$\mathcal{O}(NK^2)$$$ if you optimize calculating disatisfaction to $$$\mathcal{O}(1)$$$.

I initially tried the DP without the 2nd dimension, but it failed. Why do we need the 2nd dimension, or weak tests?

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Fail to debug E :(