Hello Codeforces!

On November 23, 18:05 MSK Educational Codeforces Round 33 will start.

Series of Educational Rounds continue being held as Harbour.Space University initiative! You can read the details about the cooperation between Harbour.Space University and Codeforces in the blog post.

As an experiment, the round will be **rated for Div. 2**. It will be held on extented ACM ICPC rules. After the end of the contest you will have one day to hack any solution you want. You will have access to copy any solution and test it locally.

You will be given **6 problems** and **2 hours** to solve them.

The problems were prepared by Mikhail awoo Piklyaev, Vladimir vovuh Petrov and me.

Good luck to all participants!

UPD: Editorial.

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What are the exact rules of the rated contest? Since it's non-standard CodeForces round, you could have included more details about it.

Will hacks count into result? Will the ranking be like usual Educational rounds?

I think it's first time, when educational round become rated. Hope problems will have short statements not as this announcement. Wish everybody luck and high rating...!

Wubba lubba dub dub

I hope the round will be unrated, because the query sometimes was more than 35 pages, and it was unreal to solve task without lost time.

Are there going to be pretests?

I hope not, so that this contest would really feel different.

No, the rules will be completely the same as on the previous Educational Rounds. After the contest we will build standings with Div. 2 participants only and update ratings according to taken places.

And what about hacks? Will they change rating?

I guess answer is NO, because if anyone who belongs to Div 2 and doesn't participate in contest, but have some successfully hack then what is happened? Also anyone can hack a lot of solution, then it arise a big problem in rating change.

And it's gonna happen soon

24 hour open hacking phase ?

Yes!

About the rules of rating distribution:

After the hacking phase the participants from Div.2 will be sorted according to ICPC rules (by number of solved problems, and if the number of problems is equal, by penalty). Then the rating will be redistributed according to places in Div.2.

There will be pretests, and the number of them will be larger than in regular Codeforces Rounds, but we don't guarantee that if the solution passes pretests, it will pass system tests.

This might be inconvenient for some participants, but remember that this round is experimental, and we may make ERs unrated again after this round (or change the rating distribution system in ERs).

Does the number of successful/unsuccessful hacks made during the hacking phase affect your rating like in normal Codeforces rounds?

The number of hacks a person made won't affect his/her place in this round.

Why won't affect ?

If I will hack someone who solved 1 problem more than me, he will fall and I will in place upper :)

What if he is in upper place after you hack, or lower place before you hack...:p

A couple of proposals:

You may divide all rating changes by 2 (do it "half-rated") due to specificity of edicational rounds.

Add small score bonuses for successful hacks (hacking is useful for community, so it should be rewarded)

Saw some guy giving the exact same suggestion some months ago and getting some umpty number of downvotes

Anyone can hack a lot of solution. Then it will be a big problem, if there any bonus for successful hack.

-1 penalty or -5 penalty with 1 successful hack will solved this problem

Is there going to be more rated Educational rounds?

I can't wait to see how rated educational will work. Good luck to everyone!

So as i understood it will be a cf round with educational problems which are really nice, with rating system like atcoder and cs academy, no hacks(because they don't count into the rating). What can be better in the world than this???

Is it rated? And if it is rated, can it became unrated?

yes it is said in the blog post.

I think that you should write into the description with really big letters that is rated because some don't see it very well.

I think, someone doesn't understand trolling

xdd

Codeforces announces rated Educational Round

Make next educational contests rated

So will system tests happen after the 24 hour hacking period so that hack cases can be added into the system tests?

Actually, we add hacks into system tests in each ER.

You say: Educational rounds primarily pursue educational and training goals, rather than competitive ones. But edutcational is rated. Don't be so

Paradox :D Last official rated rounds — unrated. Next official unrated round — rated.

Will the rating change after the contest ends or it will change after 24-hour hacking phase? If it change after 24-hour hacking phase, will hacks affect to a participant's rating?

Hope this round will be the best rated Educational Round ever.

Of course rating change after 24-hour hacking phase, because final system test occur after 24-hour hacking phase. Hack means a wrong solution, so rating must be affect with hack.

OMG! That's good!

What is the influence for penalty if I hack others? I have a suggestion. If I hack others successful, I got -10 min penalty, otherwise, I got 20 min penalty

Is it "Rated"?

Will all

`Educational Codeforces Rounds`

be rated?Can you read announcement?

Rated educational contest: ACM with semi-freezing for the entire contest including yourself

Codeforces probably will be more and more interesting!Come on!

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/gc.gif Is it "Rated"? :O

That's just a suggestion.

You can add another

Rating CriteriasayEducational Ratingand make all the Educational Round rated based on the usual rating system or any other rating algorithm.It'll feel more different if there would be no pretests and 1 day hacks.

:p

It's experiment

Is it rated?

Any educated person can read this blog. Sorry to say, you can't!

NO, It isn't

finally there will be Edu. Round in my contest list :-)

Why this page is not included in "HARBOUR SPACE UNIVERSITY" page as Educational Codeforces Round 32 Announcement?

UPD: It was updated.I'm a newbie =)) everry body who can help me how to study as well in IT

First, you have to beat tourist in a contest

And me. hahaha

Good luck to everyone! We're all eager to know how this will work! Anyway, I want to mention that I'm okay with frequent changes of how the contests work, but I would like to maintain the situation of having one weekly contest that isn't rated(besides of other rated contests). What do you people think?

Watch your goddamn mouth

Is score will be Based on the time of submission??

yes, penalty = sum_time + (amount of unsuccessful submits) * 20

best thing to an educational round :D

Again 30 pages queue :\

Long queues always sucks !!!

Experiment Failed. ( Long Queues )

I think long queues are not cause of round type.

12 minutes to surpass the queue (and received a WA after that). Either Codeforces server is running into trouble again, or you guys haven't anticipated enough about the number of submissions in educational contests...

UPD: Things are getting a lot better now. Can't compensate the issues, but still cheers ;)

It's not our problem. So what do you want?

Actually, it is. The pressure of waiting for judgement for your "threshold" problems — that means the "just right" problems, hardest you can solve in a contest — is increasing dramatically due to long queues. Also, nobody enjoys an environment with bugs and issues. They should be reported so that the administrators/moderators or the contest setters could figure out and attempt to fix it.

Is it rated?

In queue for more than 15 minutes!

Codeforces improves significantly!! There are only 27 pages of queue now.

I think new diagnostics of solutions in c++ failed the crash-test...

Why is the answer for a 3rd test case in problem D is 2? No explanation given as well as this question is also not well framed.

The answer is indeed 2. I am not sure whether I am allowed to give you an explanation in the middle of the contest.

In check-days we have non-negative balance, balance always less or equal than d.Answer: 2 deposits.

i was a bit confused too, but then i got that we can put some money to account before

`0`

operation comes in the eveningI think contest is going well.Queue is for having many test cases than regular contest :) Though sometimes it is bothering,but well enough comparing with bad pretest.

I hate D.Why you don't give an explanation to example when you know many people can't understand it clearly?

Is it Rated?

How to solve E?

first preprocess all the lowest prime factors, factorials and their inverses up to 1e6+5. Then for each x find the powers of each prime in x. You can need to distribute each power in y buckets. (basic stars and bars problems) Also to accommodate negative integers see that you can have even number of negative numbers. So final answer will be:

Calculate 2

^{y - 1}by fast exponentiation. So time complexity:O(t*log(max(x,y)))If you want to calculate then counting factorials up to

`1e6 + 5`

is not enough.Ah yes.

`1e6 + 50`

should be enoughWhat's 't' ?

Number of testcases

Thats where I got hacked :(

Anyone who failed a pretest got screwed with penalty time.

So don't fail the pretests

Good idea. I'll remember to keep this in mind for next time.

The submission 32583028 got TLE, but then 32586076 got AC while I only changed the compiler from "GNU C++17 Diagnostics" to C++11 (and

`lld`

to`I64d`

). How to explain this phenomenon?`With such two diagnostic launches, the performance of the program suffers tremendously (the program is executed 5-100 times slower and requires more memory), but often it's worth it.`

Oh... My fault. TwT

Please, read my post http://mirror.codeforces.com/blog/entry/55902

Thank you! I'd be more careful next time.

Maybe add a warning beside the language name, something like (slower) or (only for debugging)? not everyone who has not seen the blog post will know about this

You must not have seen the blog post. "GNU C++17 Diagnostics" runs much slower than the standard compiler as it checks for certain errors in your code. Check http://mirror.codeforces.com/blog/entry/55902

I thought it was just adding additional checks into the code...

Will rating be calculated according to your standings without Div 1 participants (kind of like Div2 rounds with out of competition Div1 competitors) or like a combined round?

I think it maybe a Div1+Div2 round and only to rate for Div2

Okay, based on what BledDest said, I think it'll be according to your standing among Div 2 competitors only. Correct me if I'm wrong.

"After the hacking phase the participants from Div.2 will be sorted according to ICPC rules (by number of solved problems, and if the number of problems is equal, by penalty). Then the rating will be redistributed according to places in Div.2."

Oh, Thank you. I didn't see that.

hi i cant find the bug in my code

can anyone help ? http://mirror.codeforces.com/contest/893/submission/32598508

For those who got WA on test 49 on D and later got AC, what logical error did you find?

diff here 32594374 and here 32596916

my idea was to use two limits

`mn - mx`

which the balance should be one of, I missed the case I meet a`0`

and not update my`mn`

to at least`max(mn, 0)`

because if that value is below zero, some cases might add to`mn`

which would fail my condition of failing which is`mn > d`

it means you just can't achieve the goal!Hope this helps!

While propagating the extra money that you are adding you need to keep in mind that you do not end up decreasing sum below 0.

Go through this once.

Let me know if you are unable to understand something

What is wrong with my solution here. I understood your point, but I am always keeping my sum equal to d when sum>d and subtract the reduction from excess. So in my case, I can't decrease my sum below 0. 32597627

well

you need to check if your present sum < 0 Only then that is required... You need to find the minimum exchanges.

I guess thats the only difference between our code

It worked. Thanks :D

can someone help in D? I have taken record of extra money and current balance. here is my implementation: http://mirror.codeforces.com/contest/893/submission/32602778

you should try to put this if(bal+ex>d) { ex=d-bal; }

before putting this

if(bal>d) { cout<<"-1\n"; return 0; }

or something like this

I honestly don't know I got it in the last 3 minutes so after that I started changing small things in my code (I didn't even know if the changes were going to do something or not) and then submitting the code I sent like 5 submissions in 5 minutes I was like crazy.

Anyway a few of my submissions got AC but I don't know if it's going to stick.

could someone help me with problem c I keep getting wrong answer on test 7 link to my solution: https://goo.gl/95gxqy

Try LONG LONG INT

you havent considered the smallest one

I think you've missundestood the problem.

you can go throught this ,

hope it helps

thank you for your help but I can't understand the code because I'm beginner :(

go throught dfs and connected componenets...it'll help

Can someone help me in D http://mirror.codeforces.com/contest/893/submission/32592296

`if(f[i]==0 && cur+mar>=0) cur=0,mar-=cur;`

`mar-=0`

does not update`mar`

.Still WA http://mirror.codeforces.com/contest/893/submission/32600765

It should be

`mar+=cur`

since`cur`

is negative.Thanks :) It seems my brain has stopped working :P from the fact that I could have solved E if not wasted time on D

I solved using segment tree lp. And why this line? "if(f[i]==0 && cur+mar>=0) cur=0,mar-=cur;

Segment Tree is not reqd See this http://mirror.codeforces.com/contest/893/submission/32584069 mar stands for margin that we can use when we have previously visited bank

Oh the solution is so simple...

who can share some hacks to show where people made mistakes?

How to solve D ???

Here is my submission: 32585910.

First, I took the prefix sums of all a[i] in the array I called

day. I also saved which days a[i]=0 in the arraycheckso I know which days the balance needs to greater than 0. Notice that the balance on day j is day[j].Since the balance on day j is day[j], we need to make sure that day[j] >= 0 n days that a[j] = 0. If day[j] < 0, we want to deposit money that morning. Since we want to add money for the minimum number of days, we want to add as much money as possible when we are depositing money. If we add x money to day i, the amount of money on days i...N all increase by x. Therefore, The maximum amount of money we can add on the morning of day i is D-( max(day[j] for j = i...N) ). To calculate max(day[j] for j = i...N), create an array

mbwhere mb[i] is max(day[j] for j = i...N). Loop backwards to create mb. Now, if on day i a[i]=0 and day[i] < 0, we can deposit D-mb[i] that morning. We now need to store that days i...N have D-mb[i] more money. Create a variableaddwhich stores how much money has been added in the mornings.If at any point day[i]+add > D, print -1 because the account has more than D burles. If a[i] = 0 and day[i]+add < 0, deposit D-(add+mb[i]) but deposit at least 0-(day[i]+add), otherwise the account will have negative balance. So add += max(D-(add+mb[i]), 0-(day[i]+add)).

Thanks a lot :)

__"we need to make sure that day[j] > 0 n days that a[j] = 0" shouldn't it be "day[j]>=0"?

Fixed. Thank you!

Can someone explain me

problem Ain more detail??? I can't figure out my solution(((start with 2 people (1 and 2), 3 is sitting out. then start a loop and check if 1 wins then swap 2 with 3, so now the players become 1 and 3. 32591094 will tell you the logic. it becomes obvious once you do it by hand.

Oh my god, I roundly got the idea. But can you write the details please :)

initial players 1,2. spectator:3.

the result has to be between players.so the result has to be 1/2. if result=1, spectator=2, player=3. swap between loser and spectator.

if result=2, spectator=1, player=3

now players: 1,3 spectator: 2 ....it goes on till the end

Ok, but when we will reach the end? I can't get it(

end is the end of input elements. array size

Oh yeah, I'm that stupid... But... I'm sorry again, what is the array size....

"The first line contains one integer n (1 ≤ n ≤ 100) — the number of games Alex, Bob and Carl played."-- This n is the no of array elements or size

Ohh.. I know, I'm so stupid. But how to swap players. That's a problem.

Go to toilet then have a dinner, again go to toilet and players will be swapped.

You just have to simulate the game, Alex and Bob start playing and Carl is spectating. So if Alex wins ( if the number is 1 ) you change Bob who lost with Carl , now Alex is playing with Carl if the number is 3 means that Carl wins, so you have to change the players again....

Do this until you find some absurd ( the person who wins is the spectator ) or until the movements finish.

Oh yeah, I got your idea. But I don't know how to implement it. Can you help me please ^_^:)))

for problem C, shouldn't DFS with connected components get me the correct answer? I am failing 5th test case. 32595477

for starters, your array should have a size of at least 100001, because you're storing everything 1-based.

In general, it's a good practice to add 5 elements more to your limit to avoid these problems.

Why count him as starter? He has better potential than you. He tries to solve hard problems. NOT LIKE YOU. So you should get your tongue tied.

Oh my god, he didn't call BeardAspirant a starter. It's just a way of speaking. It's similar to: "Firstly, your array should have a size of at least 100001 ...". And why the hate? Also, who are you to decide who has better potential? Stick to what concerns you.

~~in general~~for competitive programming. Generally, you should be very sure about which indices are actually accessed.i solved problem D using segment tree lp. what is the simplest way to solve D?

I explained my solution here.

Hope this helps!

Must we wait till the end of hacking phase to know the rating change?

Yes, because people's solutions can still be wrong.

Codeforces give or take points in this contest?

It depends on your rating. In your case (pupil), you won't get any points. For example, in my case (newbie), I will get exactly more than 2500 points.

thanks for the info.

thanks a lot for problem F's time limit

Pls, someone tell me, is it correct solution for D?

http://mirror.codeforces.com/contest/893/submission/32601001

How to solve problem F??

Build a merge sort tree on the <value, depth> of the tree in DFS order. When merging, remove elements so that value is non-decreasing and depth is non-increasing. Then each query becomes over this range, what is minimum value if depth is maximally (depth(x) + k). Solve this by having a fenwick tree or doing a binary search.

thanks man

Can you please elaborate your solution ?

Can you explain the 'process' function in your code? Or, what are you trying to achieve using the fenwick tree?

Yeah that code shouldn't work, and doesn't properly implement what I said above, but I guess it's hard to find tests that make it TLE. I'll write up a cleaner commented version and link it here later today.

Thank you so much.

Alright, here we are. This solution is

, but runs in around 2.5 seconds (TL is 6 sec).

First, run the DFS to get a list of nodes in DFS order. Then, build a segment tree on these nodes. For each segment, we keep a map from depth to the minimum value at that depth. Then to get the answer for a segment and a depth d, take the minimum value over all depths <= d on that segment. To do this quickly, use prefix minimums or a fenwick tree. The fenwick tree is overkill here, but would support updates quickly.

Prefix Minimums: http://mirror.codeforces.com/contest/893/submission/32656954

Fenwick Tree: http://mirror.codeforces.com/contest/893/submission/32656865

Let me know if you have any more questions!

I have used segment tree, instead of fenwick and prefix minimum. Although, I am getting accepted, can you tell me, why is it running so slow ? (3.4s)

Segment trees just run slower than fenwick trees or prefix mins. They have a higher constant cost.

oh okay. Thanks man! You have been really helpful.

It is a way to gain hack scores

Your scores won't get affected due to hacks in this round.

How to solve E ?

getting TLE in c++17 and clang++17 Diagnostics and accepted in c++14. How?

Follow this comment thread.

Round should be unrated. Very long queue

How to solve A?

You can just simulate the game: have three boolean variables / array of 3 bools and then update them based on who wins.

If the bool variable corresponding to the player who wins is false (e.g he could not have played in the first place), print -1 because such a win is impossible

Really nice problems!

For problem C, I have seen that (in hacking phase) many contestants have used dsu using two arrays — cost, parent. But my code shows memory limit exceeded on test 4 with 10^5 sized array — 32587358

You forgot to return a value in the second case of your par function. You are compressing a path but not returning it.

Hope that fixes it.

I made the following observations on E. 1: the number of prime factors of x cant be more than 20. And there can be atmost 8. even when it is 8 it is > 1e6. So build a dp table for binomial co efficient. 2: In order to find the prime factors modify seive table to hold the largest prime factor dividing it. 3: Split x into prime factors. And count the number of walls. (Combination with repetition). and using binomial coefficient we can make C(y+w+1, y) choices ( here 1 is for the number '1'. since i can include it). But here i got stuck. since in these y factors different prime numbers can be different number of times in which i ve to use permutation with repetition (to arrange within them). But how to apply it here. And after that choose any 2, 4, 6,.. numbers in y numbers and again multiply them with the permutations (for choosing negative. ) here also i got stuck. Can someone plz help me

Your logic is correct. For your last part, consider the binomial theorem expansion of (1+x)^n. Sum of all n choose k is 2^n.

Now put x=-1. You will see that sum of all n choose odd k= sum of all n choose even k. Hence, the sum of n choose even k= 2^(n-1).

Also, note that the sequence starts from 0 and not 2.

Yes. it is correct for nC2 + nC4 + .. . But i can arrange within them. So it will be (n!/(rep1! * rep2!...)) * (nC2 + nC4 + ..). so how to calculate the (n! / rep!), rep1 = number of times prime factor 1 is repeating. rep2 is no of times factor 2 is repeating.... . for eg, suppose if i ve 2, 2, 3. then i can arrange them in 3!/2! = 3 ways(here n = 3, rep1 = 2, rep2 = 1) . so i ve to multiply that with the answer. here there is 2 times 2 hence i put 3!/2!. But when i choose y numbers, i dont know how mnay numbers repeat how many number of times. So how to solve that.

There is a very simple idea in which you don't have to worry about repetitions -- Let's represent the given number

xas it's product of prime factors. Observe that each prime factor is independent of other. So we can calculate the answer for each prime factor independently and multiply it with the final answer. The pseudo code will be something like this:Now the problem reduces to finding numWays(c, y) efficiently. Observe that we have c apples and we need to distribute them to y people such that a person might not get any apple. So the numWays is just ncr(c + y - 1, y - 1). So the final idea is:

Hope it helpsthanks man

Can someone explain, how to solve F in detail ?

Perfectly matched problems for DIV2. Thanks to authors & testers:)

Problems were nice, but I think E is easy for Div2E, maybe it can be D of Div2 :)

ratings?

No system testing?? The standing page says its the final standings, i thought hack tests will be added before final standings.

When the hack phase ended, they announced that the solutions will be rejudged on hacks

soon.It looks like it's system testing now.

It's being done at a mind-blowing speed as well..

When we can see the mew rate?

We have to wait for them to rejudge the solutions with the new tests and then they'll update the ratings.

sorry i mean new rate

I think if educational rounds will be rated in the future too, I think a feature should be added, the system testing percentage one like normal rounds.

agree

System test is too slow................................................

really nigga :| its still testing

In Div 2 C (Rumors),I don't really understand why my first submission isn't working and second is working. I only changed how I set my data type (for example from long long, I switched to typedef long long ll). My first submission results in a wrong answer on test case 5. I am really curious what did I do wrong, so I can know for next time. I didn't change anything in algorithm.

My first submission:

http://mirror.codeforces.com/contest/893/submission/32631226

My second submission

http://mirror.codeforces.com/contest/893/submission/32631196

Look you change the size of graph, in the first solution, if you add edge (99999, 100000), you have problems

Ohhh, so I made a mistake by typing 100000 on a vector instead of 1e5+10

`vector <int> v[100000];`

and`long long niz[100000]={0};`

your adjacency list size as well the cost array will not store the 1e5th node values, there is no spaces to it.Hey MikeMirzayanov do you need my laptop? I guess it will help the system for judging.

hahah, this has to be the longest systest ever, and no progress indicator too.

When can i see my new rating?

System Testing is finally OVER !! How long will it take for rating changes to reflect? :D

If I had +65 rating in combined list, shouldn't I have more rating in only Div 2 list? Am I wrong?

Same, I had +77 but ended up with +2??

same here i got +89 but finally it increased by +27

same here, +45 combined, -25 actual rating change

+46 == -11 :/

I think rating predictor might have been offset from div1 participant, but it should not be THIS drastic.

Also, as described by always_4ever_5_25__21_SS there are some other issues where rating change doesn't make sense.

my friend had + 108 but ended up with +124

Yes, rating changes are going up/down/everywhere. Many are now providing examples of unfair/nonsensical rating changes. I really hope this issue is resolved.

P.S Good for your friend :)

I had +68, ended up with -2

+80 but ended up with -8.

Looks like those who got 4 or more AC had big increases in rating. Those with just 3 heavily suffered from rating loss,

regardless of time penaltySame, CF-Predictor predicted +115 , got +33 only.

I didn't understand the rating change fact. Before this contest i had a rating of 1510 and i became 74 (in division 2) and my rating increased by 104. There is another person who became 304 and his rating increased by 98 (his previous rating was 1530). Is it because this is an educational round and things are handled differently???

CF Predictor show +74 Rating and Got +8 . don't know how they calculate it .

cfpredictor count with div1(( It shows + 56, get +1

so is there a problem? :|

I am finding this odd.

Will the ratings be updated again? :|

CF predictor +35 Rating -35 Became Specialist

Div 2 only,

Rank 55, previous = 1811, increase = + 125, new = 1936,

Rank 77, previous = 1795, increase= = + 24, new = 1819.

Also,

Rank 7, previous = 1891, increase = +193, new = 2084,

Rank 10, previous = 1757, increase = + 141, new = 1898,

Looks very odd in my opinion, especially the second one.

I gave an example above that is odder.

My second one now.

Is there anything wrong with rating changes? BledDest MikeMirzayanov

Yes The Rating seems to be super mega unfair ?????

Prediction might be correct :/

Isn't this weird!

Yup, that's wierd :p , i guess ratings will be recalculated...

Rank 612 — rating 1640 => -42 Rank 1771 — rating 1695 => -53

Why?

I was 1526 and finished 441st in the contest and my rating went down, IT WENT DOWN.. HOW AND WHY???

I don't think I will be joining rated educational rounds again , I will stick to regular rounds. Waiting for a day for rating change and systems tests + weird rating change (no thanks)

You should also note this is experimental/first time they are doing such a contest, it is very possible they will fix this for this contest and future contests.

Exactly ! If this is how experiments turn out, I will refrain from participating in "rated" educationals from now on. I was so positive and excited about new ratings...but now I am depressed as hell.

I was excited about going back to Expert after a long time but no, 18 points decreased, fantastic...

It's just a number bro

Round should be unrated because the problems were very easy

Just an assumption: Maybe while rating they considered only points i.e. number of questions solved. So all those who solved the same number of questions were ranked equally from rating point of view. I assume this seeing the anomaly in the comment section.

looks like the new rating is based on the number of problems you solved, not your standing on this contest. It is unfair to change the rating rule without announcement before the contest.

I think it's true, but i think it's very unfair

I'll fix it soon.

❤

http://mirror.codeforces.com/blog/entry/55950?#comment-396665 here they have mentioned that ranks will be sorted by penalty. They probably missed the penalty part.

It's fixed, the ratings. Thank You.

It's still not right.

I also see this.

Very Good contest, I like it, very very good. Make more contests PLZ.

Good Contest

I noticed that the rating changes did not apply on the Rating page.

what the hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How you count the rating ???? which process it has changed????

Dude your rating has increased by 101 points. Are you really that angry?

I mean its all right to know how the rating changes work but you wayyy more angry than some of the other participants who've had their ratings decreased in spite of expecting an increase.

My rating increased by 6 and now it shows -11..why?