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World Finals 2017 Prediction Game
By huansuz1, history, 8 years ago, translation, In English

My prediction :

  1. SPb SU. I believe, that they did it again.
  2. Tsinghua U
  3. Warsaw U
  4. Shanghai Jiao Tong U
  5. MIPT
  6. MIT
  7. ITMO
  8. Perm SU
  9. Seoul NU
  10. The Chinese U of Hong Kong
  11. Taiwan U
  12. BSUIR

Teams going to ACM ICPC World Final 2017.

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8 years ago, # |
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  1. Tsinghua U
  2. ITMO
  3. Seoul NU
  4. U Warsaw
  5. SpbSU
  6. Shanghai JTU
  7. KTH
  8. MIT
  9. MIPT
  10. U Tokyo
  11. U New South Wales
  12. U Waterloo
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8 years ago, # |
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  1. Tsinghua U
  2. SpbSU
  3. Warsaw U
  4. ITMO
  5. MIPT
  6. Shanghai Jiao Tong
  7. MIT
  8. U Tokyo
  9. Seoul NU
  10. U Waterloo
  11. KTH
  12. U New South Wales
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8 years ago, # |
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  1. Warsaw U Eagles
  2. Tshingua Dark Fantasy
  3. SpbSU
  4. Seoul
  5. MIT
  6. ITMO
  7. Jiao Tong
  8. Waterloo
  9. Tokyo
  10. Hong Kong
  11. MIPT
  12. Peking

Is there anyone predicting other team than Eagles, DDF or SPbSU to win? :D

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8 years ago, # |
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  1. Tsinghua U
  2. SPb SU
  3. Seoul NU
  4. Warsaw U
  5. MIT
  6. ITMO
  7. Shanghai Jiao Tong U
  8. Perm SU
  9. MIPT
  10. U Tokyo
  11. U Waterloo
  12. Pekin
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8 years ago, # |
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  1. SPb SU (would be good for the gay community in Russia)
  2. Tsinghua U (never won wf)
  3. Warsaw U (because they have mnbvmar, and if it's not clear enough, let me remind you that they have mnbvmar)
  4. Shanghai Jiao Tong U (always strong at wf)
  5. Seoul NU (that guy cubelover found the two pics thing, wow such a hacker, they must be strong)
  6. Peking U (the two LGMs thingy)
  7. MIPT (one gold is enough)
  8. MIT (the strongest chinese team outside China)
  9. U Waterloo (weak canadians always behind americans)
  10. ITMO (no medal, no itmo)
  11. Perm SU (404 joke not found)
  12. U Helsinki (would be good for Finland to win something in life)
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  1. Seoul NU
  2. Tsinghua U
  3. SpbSU
  4. MIPT
  5. Shanghai U
  6. ITMO
  7. MIT
  8. Warsaw U
  9. Tokyo U
  10. Waterloo
  11. Peking U
  12. Perm SU
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  1. ITMO
  2. Warsaw U
  3. Tsinghua U
  4. Shanghai JTU
  5. SpbSU
  6. MIPT
  7. MIT
  8. Seoul NU
  9. Peking U
  10. KTH
  11. Perm U
  12. Waterloo U
    ...
    22. Moscow State University
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  1. Tsinghua U
  2. SPb SU
  3. Warsaw U
  4. MIT
  5. ITMO
  6. Seoul NU
  7. MIPT
  8. Shanghai JTU
  9. KTH
  10. Fudan U
  11. U Tokyo
  12. U New South Wales
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  1. Tsinghua U
  2. SPbSU
  3. Seoul NU
  4. ITMO
  5. Warsaw U
  6. MIPT
  7. MIT
  8. SJTU
  9. U Tokyo
  10. KTH
  11. U Waterloo
  12. Perm SU
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I calc the average rating of each team member, and here is the result

1 Tsinghua University 2945.33

2 Seoul National University 2943.33

3 St. Petersburg State University 2882

4 University of Waterloo 2756

5 University of Warsaw 2708.33

6 Massachusetts Institute of Technology 2648.67

7 Perm State University 2615.67

8 Moscow Institute of Physics & Technology 2609

9 St. Petersburg ITMO University 2592.33

10 Shanghai Jiao Tong University 2566

11 University of Tokyo 2564.33

12 KTH — Royal Institute of Technology 2547.67

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1) Tsinghua

2) Warsaw

3) ITMO

4) Seoul

5-7) St. Petersburg State University

5-7) MIT

5-7) Waterloo

8) Shanghai

9-10) Tokyo

9-10) New South Wales U

11-12) KTH

11-12) Peking

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Could someone do a website for this? that supports predicting top 10, first problem to be solved, first team to solve first problem, number of problems to be solved by top team.. could be fun

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  1. Tsinghua
  2. SPb SU
  3. SNU
  4. Warsaw
  5. ITMO
  6. MIT
  7. SJTU
  8. MIPT
  9. PKU
  10. Helsinki
  11. U Tokyo
  12. UNSW
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5. Warsaw U (Sorry Swistakk)

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  1. Tsinghua U
  2. SPb SU
  3. Seoul NU
  4. University of Zagreb
  5. University of Warsaw
  6. Shanghai JTU
  7. ITMO
  8. MIT
  9. MIPT
  10. U Tokyo
  11. Kim Chaek University of Technology
  12. U Waterloo
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    8 years ago, # ^ |
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    NK didn't send their teams to world finals this year, because of their awesome diplomatic relation with US

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      I thought that's because Pyongyang Regional staffs didn't send the results to ICPC Asia officials before the WF advancers were called.

      Also I don't understand what happened on the final standings of Pyongyang regional, even though I can read some Korean.

      I always welcome both "Korean" students participating in programming contests, as long as they don't cheat or take part in individual contests as a team (I'm sad the particular one coder says every North Korean coder is cheater and they mustn't come to AtCoder).

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        I thought that's because Pyongyang Regional staffs didn't send the results to ICPC Asia officials before the WF advancers were called.

        Right. This is the exact fact — But I strongly believe that those events were happened because of the difficulties for going to US, regarding the fact that 1. It is Trump administration, so they are unlikely to get visas. / 2. They are heavily backed by their government.

        This also matches some infos spoken by NK defector, who said that the Party is withdrawing some international contest participation these days. This lacks citation, so believe it or not.

        Also I don't understand what happened on the final standings of Pyongyang regional, even though I can read some Korean.

        What happened? Accessing North Korean website is banned in Korea, by the National Security Act. So I'm actually unable to say something about it.. I remember you were a good Korean speaker :D

        every North Korean coder is cheater and they mustn't come to AtCoder

        I really hate cheating, but yeah it is clearly a discrimination. Sad that such thing happened.

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          There're several Kim Il Sung University teams that performed better than the top team of Kimchaek UT. However, every Kim Il Sung Univ. team's place is written _*-th_ and Kimchaek is placed 1st.

          Also, this is the news about the competition, South Korean source. Link

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          Lol, imagine Nork team entering USA and immediately getting deported.

          Accessing North Korean website is banned in Korea [...] So I'm actually unable to say something about it..

          There are easy solutions to that.

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            Well, our country has a proud world first record of arresting someone by "retweeting". by National Security Act.

            So, when I said

            unable to say something

            .. I hope you got it now :D

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              8 years ago, # ^ |
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              You also had a president controlled by a cult leader.

              You could simply say you heard about it from a friend who heard about it from a friend, that means you don't admit to visiting NK websites.

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  1. Tsinghua
  2. ITMO
  3. Warsaw
  4. Seoul
  5. SPbSU
  6. MIPT
  7. MIT
  8. KTH
  9. SJTU
  10. Tokyo
  11. Fudan
  12. Peking

Very optimistic prediction for us :p

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I believe I did this two years ago, so here we go again...

1. SPb SU Three members, all have been Legendary Grandmaster at some point in time. That's what I call a solid foundation, and that's exactly what you need to reach the top in this contest.

2. University of Warsaw Winning CERC is in its own no small feat, and with an all red team it's without question that these guys will be fighting for gold. Though they don't seem to be in 100% perfect shape, and that will be the reason they're not winning.

3. Tsinghua University On paper, I'd say that this is the strongest team. And I think they'll take the lead for the first 3h with an amazing speed. But somehow I feel that the last hour will fail them and Tsinghua's curse (wait for victory) will continue.

4. KTH The team confidently won NWERC solving all problems, and simonlindholm has qualified to and performed well in GCJ/DGCJ and FBH finals over the last 2 years. And last week's GCJ Round 2 results with two members top 10 (#1 and #8) shows that they're in shape. This is Sweden's golden generation, if they don't win gold now then it won't happen for the next 5-10 years. So it's almost now or never for Sweden and maybe even for NWERC as a whole.

5. ITMO Yet another Russian team having members all with solid rating, but they seem to lack a striker, that single person who can perform wonders when under pressure. But they are sure to make up for it through sheer team work, and the history of ITMO wouldn't have us believe otherwise.

6. Seoul National University Three amazingly strong individuals, but how is their team work? Well team work aside, ainta's hunger alone will take them this far.

7. Shanghai Jiao Tong University A throughout strong team no doubt, but the one thing that will place them above equally strong teams is Shanghai Jiao Tong's tradition and ability to perform at its best when it matters the most.

8. University of New South Wales I don't know why, I just have a feeling that JoeyWheeler will perform wonders. :)

9. MIT Strong members who all seem to compete sparsely on CF but still perform suprisingly well, are they perhaps saving their best for the finals?

10. Sharif University of Technology In comparsion to other teams in this final, they may not come across as very impressive. And sure I believe they'll be outside top 12 until the last hour, but then experience and stellar team work will pay off, and they'll solve at least 2 additional problems and claim a medal.

11. University of Waterloo This team has the ability to go far (with a fresh Legendary Grandmaster and all), but somehow I feel they're just not hungry enough and the last hour will not be in their favor.

12. University of Helsinki This team managed to do what many thought would be impossible, they beat Omogen Heap (the KTH team) in NCPC 2016, a contest that has been absolutely dominated by Omogen Heap over the last years. And their performance in NWERC was solid, solid enough to make me believe that they can snatch a bronze medal.

13. University of Tokyo :'( The team will open up well and be top 4 after 2h. But bad luck will strike and as many times before UTokyo will end up just outside the medal spots.

Honourable mentions: MIPT and Perm SU Sorry guys, the luck won't be on your side on Wednesday. :P There's no particular reason why these two teams wouldn't be up their fighting for gold/silver, I guess I just wanted some more diversity in my top 12 predictions. ^^

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    Don't forget, MIT team members' sum of IOI ranks is 7.

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    It's also the 'golden generation' for Australia (though they have next year too if they don't succeed this year). Besides JoeyWheeler, don't forget xxTastyHypeBeast666xx got 5th at IOI and AntiForest was one place off gold. Abyss's and antiforest's cf ratings are just deceptively low because they're sane and decide to sleep at nighttime ;)

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SPb State University will win again.

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I posted detailed statistics in my blog post, anyway my prediction is:

  1. Tsinghua
  2. Warsaw
  3. SPb ITMO
  4. SPb SU
  5. Seoul
  6. MIPT
  7. MIT
  8. KTH
  9. Fudan
  10. New South Wales
  11. Tokyo
  12. SJTU

UPD: I checked the result of MIPT and Barcelona camp

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  1. Tsinghua
  2. Warsaw
  3. ITMO
  4. Seoul NU
  5. SpbSU
  6. MIPT
  7. MIT
  8. KTH
  9. NTU
  10. New South Wales
  11. SJTU
  12. Tokyo
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  1. SpbSU
  2. Tsinghua
  3. ITMO
  4. Seoul NU
  5. U Warsaw
  6. MIPT
  7. MIT
  8. KTH
  9. Shanghai JTU
  10. Peking
  11. U Waterloo
  12. Tokyo
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  1. Tsinghua U
  2. ITMO
  3. SPb SU
  4. Warsaw U
  5. Seoul NU
  6. MIPT
  7. KTH
  8. Peking U
  9. U Waterloo
  10. Shanghai JTU
  11. MIT
  12. Perm SU
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ACTUAL WORLD FINALS RESULT 2017

1 St. Petersburg ITMO University 2 University of Warsaw 3 Seoul National University 4 St. Petersburg State University 5 Moscow Institute of Physics & Technology 6 Tsinghua University 7 Peking University 8 Fudan University 9 KAIST 10 Ural Federal University 11 KTH — Royal Institute of Technology 12 The University of Tokyo 13 Shanghai Jio Tong University https://icpc.baylor.edu/worldfinals/results

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