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By KAN, 8 years ago, translation, In English

Hi!

The Codeforces Round 464 (Div. 2) is going to be held on Saturday, 17 February 2018 at 10:05 UTC for participants from division 2.

The round is based on XIV Nizhny Novgorod Olympiad in Informatics named after V. D. Lelyukh for high school students, which will take place on Saturday in Nizhny Novgorod. However, the problems for the Olympiad and for the round are not completely identical.

The problems were prepared by KAP, ashmelev, ZhNV, kuzmichev_dima, demon1999, SYury, mmatrosov and me. Thanks to mike_live and vepifanov for testing the problems, and vintage_Vlad_Makeev and MikeMirzayanov for helping us to host the round on Codeforces!

As usual, participants from division 1 can take part out of competition.

Good luck and have fun!

UPD: There will be 6 problems with the following scores: 500-1000-1500-2000-2500-2750.

You will be able to view submissions and tests after the end of the olympiad in Nizhny Novgorod around 13:30 UTC.

Congratulations to winners!

Div. 2:

  1. LitiIsPretty
  2. heuristica
  3. Panole2333
  4. S.H.I.E.L.D
  5. OYZYWIN

Div. 1:

  1. dotorya
  2. eddy1021
  3. DmitryGrigorev
  4. uwi
  5. georgerapeanu

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It's Codeforces Round #464 Div.2 not #265 Div 1. Correct me if I was wrong.

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Hope that the problem statements are as short as the announcement.

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high rating for every one :D

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4 days 4 amazing rated contests!!

i'm feeling lucky!! 4 days doing favorite thing! XD

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How many problems in Round #464 ?

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if someone will become div. 1 in this round .. Is (Educational Codeforces Round 38) will become unrated for him ?

UPD: Sorry i didn't see that Hack is opened 12 hours only in this round xD

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It is rated for Div.2.4 days 4 amazing rated contests!!

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Will the scoring distribution be announced soon?

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Look at the first line of the announcement — It should be "Hi, Codeforces". I'm afraid that the author should be a litle more careful.

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Can you please extend time for half an hour.

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Perfect time for Chinese users!

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    But it could be better! ---- I'm having dinner during this time.

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    It is very good to have a contest when I am working, not sleeping!

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Back to back contests. Passed a great weekend.

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What a pitty! I hava to have dinner when the contest starting.

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4 days 4 rated contests for div.2... perfect ending of valentine's week...xD

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When will be the rating updated for "Codeforces Educational round#38"???

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Probably it is the first time for Div-2 users when their ratings will be updated twice a day.

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to newbieeeeeee

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Could you please update the information about the number of problems and their scoring distribution?

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Seldom to see so friendly a round time for East Asia and Southeast Asia participants!

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How many problems are there in this round?

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For technical reasons, system testing of Educational Codeforces Round 38 (Rated for Div. 2) is delayed until the end of this round. After the round, the following sequence of events will happen: system testing of Round #464, system testing of Educational Round #38, rating updates for the Educational Round, rating updates for Round #464, in that order. Ratings for Round #464 will be updated for participants who were in div. 2 prior to the Educational Round.

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    So rating updates for Round #464 will be ready by tomorrow???

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For problem A, do A,B,C need to be distince planes?

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When local time in the 1-st timezone is 1 hour, local time in the i-th timezone is i hours.

How 3 hours (in first timezone) is equal to 1 hour (in the second timezone) and 2 hours (in the third timezone)?

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Did someone notice? They added the feature to copy the sample test cases of a problem. Thank you Codefroces, keep going!

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How to solve E?

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    Ternary Search!

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    My solution is this:

    It's easy to prove that we will always pick the max element in the sequence, and then we can ternary search for which prefix should we use.

    Hope I won't FST. (UPD: AC in system test)

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      It can be done faster: notice that if we pick new max element, amount of elements in answer can't decrease, so we can use 2-pointer algorithm

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      Why ternary? I'm fine with binary search:)

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        My implementation is doing binary search on the slope.

        However, I am used to call it ternary search because I'm ternary search on the value.

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      How can we update prefix' sum fast?

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        Things are given in non decreasing way, so we can simply maintain prefix' sum like this:

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          Is n the size of multiset?

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          Omg, dude. I've just looked through the statement and noticed that:

          1 — Add a positive integer to S, the newly added integer is not less than ANY number in it.

          During a contest I thought that the newly added integer is not less than minimum number in it.......

          Now I understood how easy the problem is :(((

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      I don't see why it's true that we always pick the max element. Also why is there only a single peak for the prefixes?

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        I figured out why there must be one peak. But still don't see how it's always optimal to pick the overall max.

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          Let’s assume that we have an optimal choice, where max element is m1 and sum of other elements is S.

          So we can conclude that (M is the max element in the original set)

          nm1 - S + m1 ≥ nM - S + M

          m1(n + 1) ≥ M(n + 1)

          m1 ≥ M

          We know that nothing could greater than M, so m1 must be M

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            I still don't see it. For m1 it's possible that the optimal choices for S and n are different from the optimal choices for M. (so we can't assume that the S and n on the left side are the same as the S and n on the right)

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              m1, S and n is optimal, so any subset won’t greater than it.Then, I simply replace m1 with M trying to get another subset, but we can prove that it’s the same subset containing m1

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    You needn't use binary search or ternary search. You can first choose the biggest number, and then choose some small numbers to make the average value as small as possible. If you use C++, you can use priority_queue. (upd. AC in system test)

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How to solve F?

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    Wondering too.

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      Just a DP with segment tree is ok. dpi, j stands for the minimum times of flipping, if the face now is cooked j seconds at the end of interval i (i.e. ri).

      It's obvious that we don't need to flip more than two times in an interval. So just consider how long every face get fried, this yields a Θ (n2·k) dp.

      Notice that the points that a state affects is always an interval, so we can use a segment tree with interval-minimum modify and single-point query(or single-point modify and interval-minimum query).

      This yields a solution, which suits the time limit. (Actually it runs very fast, because there are lots of useless states in the dp, ignoring these can make this solution run in about 200ms)

      Hope this will help.

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        Sorry, what's minimum times meant for? It's time for what?

        我怕我英文說得不好,這裡用中文寫一下我的問題:可不可以跟我解釋一下反轉魚的最小時間(也就是DP的意義)是什麼,我的理解他是j,可是這就很奇怪了

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          Sorry, the time means the number of operations. (I don't know a better explanation) It doesn't mean the time when you flip it.

          我怕我英文說的不好,這裡用中文回答一下你的問題:DP的意義是翻轉魚的最小次數,不是時間。英語中time做不可數名詞的時候是時間,可數的時候是次數(可能還有其他用法)。j是當前被烤的那一面,被烤的時間。dp就是說,考慮了前i個區間,被烤的那一面烤了j秒,所需要的最小翻轉次數。

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            Oh!!!! Great Thanks.

            My English is so poor, I didn't notice the 's' after "time".

            Thanks for your wonderful explanation.

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      An alternative solution:

      Still, use dynamic programming, and dp[i][j] stands for stands for the minimum times of flipping, if the face now is cooked j seconds at the end of interval i.

      It's easy to get dp[i][j] = min(dp[i — 1][j — r[i] + r[i — 1]], min(all elements within dp[i — 1][(j — r[i] + r[i — 1]) ... (j — l[i] + r[i — 1])]) + 2, min(all elements within dp[i — 1][(r[i — 1] — j)...(r[i — 1] + r[i] — l[i] — j)]) + 1).

      Notice that: 1. dp[i — 1][(j — r[i] + r[i — 1]) ... (j — l[i] + r[i — 1])] is an interval. 2. As long as j0 < j1, (j0 — r[i] + r[i — 1]) <= (j1 — r[i] + r[i — 1]) and (j0 — l[i] + r[i — 1]) <= (j1 — l[i] + r[i — 1]) (Either of the terminals of the interval 0 is on the left of the corresponding terminal of the interval 1).

      So it's not hard to see that two pointers + deque trick can be used to optimalize this algorithm.

      More detailed: 35414333

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    Try to use the fact that in each l[i] to r[i],whatever possible can be achieved with atmost two flips. So use seg tree(or sparse table or multiset) to update dp values of each level based on previous level,
    Now we need to find what all states contribute to i using len length segment we can get from i+len%2,i-len%2,i+2+len%2,i-2-len%2, and so on till within limits. So segment tree on odd and even positions should be maintained.
    My solution took 2500ms but some solutions took 61ms. So I believe some other nice way exist.Can someone explain???

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Hope that I handle the output criteria of C more careful. Half an hour wasted with 4 wrong submissions because of the mistake.

Anyway, the problems and pretests are good. Thanks :D

P/s: Is problem E solvable with a greedy approach and two (but technically one)-pointer(s)?

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    I have written such solution in E and it have passed pretests

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      Same with mine. However I feel quite uncertain — like Is it that easy, or there is a trap, or it was just me thinking that the problem is easy?.

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    Yeah I wrote such a solution and it passed system tests. There is a proof sort of for it.

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      Can you elaborate the proof? ;)

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        Yeah. Initially when you consider adding all occurrences of a number and you find the difference between the current and the previous one, and if it is positive then you can take that number into account.

        Consider n/sum — (n+occ*ai)/(sum+occ)

        If difference is -ve you can stop.It is beacuse:

        a/b<(a+occ*x)/(b+occ) for all x>1

        Hence the greedy approach works.

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          It's clear enough ;) also by reading this I know that my thought during contest time was equivalent ;)

          Thanks! :D

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Was F just dp but instead of having an O(n) transition you change it to O(1) by choosing whether or not to flip at some time (if valid) and return the number of seconds one side is cooked for (and then keep the minimum number of moves in a different dp table)?

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What's pretest 5 in problem C, if someone was stuck there?

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no chances for problem hack a and b...."pretty straightforward"

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Any idea what was the pretest 5 in C??

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I solved E literally 2 seconds after the contest got over :(

I hope it doesn't get accepted when I submit later.

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    I solved that 5 minutes after the contest lol

    Don't feel upset if it gets accepted, though. Whether or not we are able to solve a problem is more important than "the ratings we could've gotten," in my opinion.

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When I realize that only one digit '1' needed to be changed to '0' in the code to get AC...

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Does failing a pretest during the contest affect your rating? I've looked through contest rules etc couldn't see that part discussed.

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    I don't get exactly what you meant, but this is what I think.

    If you haven't submitted any solutions, and then you submitted a "WA/TLE/etc. at pretest X", your rating would start to be affected, since from this point you're set as really participated in the contest.

    If not, then it's similar to any failed submissions — just a minus 50 points of penalty.

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      Apologies, I see what you mean the question wasn't clear enough.

      That makes sense. Is there a difference in the penalty between a "WA/TLE/etc. at pretest X" and failing on system testing? Or are they both just considered a failed submission -50 points?

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        Well, technically, they both mean -50. But that penalty is considered only when you managed to have a correct solution after.

        And in this case, system test failures are assured to not gaining or decreasing your points at all (since you have no chance to re-submit oficially and get points).

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          Oh I see! I think this is what I was missing. I thought the penalty was -50 from your overall points for the contest, but it is a penalty on the total points that you can gain from submitting the correct solution for that particular question.

          Thanks Akikaze

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WA in D(pretest 6). can anyone check whats the problem?? link to my solution of Problem D

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    Using this test case

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    return dfs(graph[i][j], fd); This line of code gives you the error. You are not considering all the adjacent nodes and just returning the value from the first adj node you visit. Eg. the graph consisits of: (a, b) (a, c) if you search for a c again it would return false as first 'b' is visited in adjacency list of 'a' and thus it returns false

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Light-speed System test. Amazing!!!!

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what could have been the pretest 4 for problem C?

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    I failed on that one too (several times). From my observations, it's the first test with s>1

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Before the announcement on B, I submitted B and locked it.

For any case where we can not take any box, I printed -1 0 because I have no idea what to print in such case as the question is unclear.

But my solution failed in System Test.

This should be got AC because, at first the statement was not clear.

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The fastest system testing ever!

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For D, was there a better method than finding the edges of the minimum spanning forest of the graph?

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After how much time of the system testing can we submit the solutions in Practice? Cant now

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How to solve C?

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    I used a sliding window kind of approach.Passed the pretests but my solution failed on last system test due to silly mistake. It was just because of using < instead of <=.

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What's wrong with my solution of C?

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something going wrong in test case 20 in the problem B.

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When will the contest be available for virtual participation?

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Can anyone prove this? 35412837

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What is pretest 13 of problem A?

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As its not possible to view the test cases currently did any one else get a runtime error in test case 19 of B? If yes then do you know why?

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System test is finished and still we can't submit ?!

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Can someone please post the questions asked in the Nizhny Novgorod Olympiad, that this contest was based on ?

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    Problems were same as of Codeforces Round 464 (Div. 2).

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    The problems are in Russian, so it won't work if I just post them. Let's go through problems of Codeforces Round:

    • A: prepared specially for the round,
    • B, C, D: same as on the olympiad,
    • E: on the olympiad time limit was 1 second.
    • F: on the olympiad the constraint on n was 500 000.
    • there was one more easy problem on the olympiad.
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      Thank you so much for your reply !

      Can you tell what the easy problem was ?

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      So why in the Codeforces round, the constraint on k of problem F was 100, but in the test data it never exceeded 20? I think if it became 100, a lot of solutions will get TLE(but mine will not :P). Can you explain it a little bit? Is it a bug or a feature? Thx a lot.

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        Why will nklogn solutions get TLE? The time_limit is enough for nklogn when k is 100.

        but.. I still don't know why my O(nk^2 log32 /64) solution can pass the testcase within 62ms.

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          But the segment tree runs a little bit slow... Those who runs more than 1s will likely get TLE, actually there are a lot of them.

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"The round is based on XIV Nizhny Novgorod Olympiad in Informatics for high school students named after V. D. Lelyukh, which will take place on Saturday in Nizhny Novgorod."

Wow, there is an Olympiad for high school students that are all named after V. D. Lelyukh? That's amazing!

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What's wrong with my code of problem A?

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It's 13:45 UTC now and we still can't submit solutions.

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My B is hacked :( ...

can anyone give me some test case...

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Apparently the succesful hacks have not been added to the final system tests. What is the reason for this?

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Why is the right answer 4 in fourth C test? 10 7171 2280 6982 9126 9490 2598 569 6744 5754 1855 7 9 If we begin round at 4, only participants from 4, 5 and 7 time zones take part in it, and if we begin round at 10, participants from 1, 8 and 9 time zones take part, so in first case we have 9126+9490+569=19185 participants, and in second case 7171+6744+5754=19669 participants. ???

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For E Can we pick max and min element get their average and then pick all less elements than Average?

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    I don't think so. As you add more small elements the overall average decreases. At a certain point adding new elements will start to increase the average, even if it's less than the original average.

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    I solved it using this idea but changing the average as I insert the elements... This way is very simple and doesn't need ternary/binary search.

    Take a look: my submission

    We always use the max and a prefix of the elements, and this prefix always increases, so it's very easy.

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How to solve C?Anyone please explain .

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    Let's find the max sum on each segment with the size of (f-s). First segment will be s...f-1, second s-1...f-2.

    Ok. But there is 1 detail: the beginning of the segment can be in the end of our array and the end of it can be in the beginning of our array.

    I hope my code'll help you to deal with it

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    This problem can be solved in O(n). Initialize an array with value 0 of size n. Consider 1st timeline as the starting point and can be represented as 1 2 3 4 ... n. While, 2nd timezone can be represented as 2 3 4 ... n 1 (wrt to 1st timezone) and so on... Replace the indices with the participants. And then do an array addition from s to f-1 for each timezone in the initial array. The index corresponding to max value is the answer.

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Before this round my rating in div 2 But after by education round my rating was 1954. Is calculate my rating this round?

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In problem C, why this test case is 4 and not 5

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Some people who became div-1 in the Educational round was rated in this round. If you go to the rating changes of this round you can see some purple guys got their rating updated which shouldn't happen as this round is for div-2. This should be fixed.

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    MysteryGuy2, RCG, Timsel, WORLD_OF_TANKS, winner, andrew, faustaadp, furys, Chefer, levapnilirbuz, smusmu, killer_god, Trote_w, hands_yhy, Sugardorj, Gorix, win11905, kzyKT

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35423572 can someone debug this solution for problem C?

EDIT : My approach for the problem: I made the array of twice the size so that round or wrapping condition for the end & beginning timezones is considered. I calculated prefix sum for 2*n +1 size array. Then, I searched for maximum diffrence of (a[i+f-s-1] — a[i]). Then calculated corresponding value for the time in the first time zone.

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    imalgoholic, I had this exact problem. In case there are multiple subarrays with same (max)answer, you have to output the one which leads to minimum start time in timezone 1.

    For everyone failing on Pretest 9 of problem C, Try this: 6 1 3 4 1 3 4 1 3 correct ans : 3 your ans : 6

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Can someone tell me, what's wrong with my approach in C?

I used range updates to add a[i] to (s + i — 1 , p — 3 + i), and then checked the maximum.

Here's my code.

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    The only thing you needed was to find the segment with max sum in.

    First segment is [s,f). Second — [s-1,f-1); If segment number two has the max sum, answer is two. If segment 3 has the max sum, answer is three, and so on.

    Look through my solution. At least it looks easier than yours ;)

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In problem A, why starting the loop from 0 instead of 1 gives a wrong answer !?

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    If you start from 0 you should read a[i] and then decrease it (a[i]--).

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      yeah I know, but I don't understand why what's the difference

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        "There are n planes on Earth, numbered from 1 to n, and the plane with number i likes the plane with number fi," Here's the sample:

        3

        3 1 2

        You consider that person number 0 likes person number 3. But if you start from 0 there is no person #3. (a[0],a[1],a[2])

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Can somebody explain what's wrong with my solution of C? 35398638

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Will never use cin and cout in my life again! Problem E. :/

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When the universe just sided with you..

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Suddenly became frozen when I realized my E got WA just because of the precision problem:

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UPD: get accepted after adding "fixed" and "setprecision(10)" : 35434902

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What's the wrong with problem F? The problem statement shows the maximum k is 100 that I think the algorithm can't solve this problem, but among all the testdata the maximum k is 20.

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There are many cheat passed D

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Excuse me , but where is the tutorial of Codeforces Round #464 Div.2 ? Can someone give me a link?

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What is wrong with my solution (Problem C)?

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Why does problem 939E - Maximize! have to give numbers in non-decreasing order? This makes it much easier than usual.

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editorial please?

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