AndreyPavlov's blog

By AndreyPavlov, history, 3 years ago, translation, In English

Hello, Codeforces!

IzhitskiyTimofey, qualdoom and I are glad to invite everyone to participate in Codeforces Round 846 (Div. 2), which will take place in Jan/25/2023 17:35 (Moscow time).

This round will be rated for the participants with rating lower than 0x834 (i.e. 2100). Participants with a higher rating can take part in the round unofficially.

You will have 7 tasks and 2 hours to solve them.

One of the problems will be interactive. Make sure to read this blog and familiarize yourself with these types of problems before the round!

I want to sincerely thank everyone who provided invaluable help in preparing the round and made it many times better:

This is our first official round on Codeforces. We sincerely hope to your participation. We hope that you will like the proposed tasks!

The score will be announced closer to the start of the round.

We wish you good luck and have a good time! See you in the round!

UPD: Scoring distribution: $$$500-1000-1250-1500-1750-2000-2500$$$

UPD: Round is unrated. We're sorry — it's our fault.

UPD: Tutorial and comment about task C Once again, we apologize for the inconvenience caused.

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It clashes with codechef starters 75 https://www.codechef.com/START75?itm_medium=hpbanner_1&itm_campaign=START75. Is it possible to change the time ? Thanks

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As a tester, the tasks are quite interesting and the statements are clear.

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Tester is me

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As a tester I can say that I am a tester

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clashing with codechef, it would be great if timing is changed

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I Think it's Bitmask Round , I hope it is a misconception

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almost OrangeForces lol

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Codeforces round is not clashing with codechef round. Codechef is clashing with codeforces.

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Meanwhile Codeforces Lovers
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I take my words back ;(
DISAPPOINTED

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omg orange round

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Hoping to solve till D in this round.

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wish every contester good luck and happy rating++ !

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"One of the problems will be interactive."I think it will be "D".

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Masters' Round!

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Will the rating update of this round before educational #142?

Update: Now the rating has been updated.

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What should I do To become Specialist

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hope i can solve problem C,so that i can change a color 。 i dont like green

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IS THAT A JOJO REFERENCE??????!!!!!!!!!!11!1!1!1!1!1!1!

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Unrated?

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Why will this round be unrated?

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I was off to a great start, and then they make the round unrated :)))))

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Unrated??.. First time solved 3 questions in 40mins

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"Unranted"

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Solved A+B+C in 26mins , thought I would finally become a specialist :")

But turns out the round is unrated. Sad :(

Anyways, Nice problems , thanks to the authors <3 !

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Sad that round will be unrated. Anyway, I enjoyed solving problems, especially D

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I was getting some positive delta (110+) after a long time. and now it's unrated. was it really necessary to make it unrated?

Edit:- ohh c is not solvable that's why it became unrated!

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    Yes, since problem C is unsolvable. The problem setters thought that a greedy approach would solve C but it turns out that greedy doesn't always work. During the contest they realized that C is actually unsolvable within the constraints.

    And no, it wouldn't be enough to just not count C towards the ratings, because different people spent different amounts of time on C and it just wouldn't be fair.

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What is "can't be solved under given constraints"?? Last I saw, 2752+ correct submissions are there on C

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I skipped C, solved D, and after 5 minutes round became unrated. Not cool.

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The way it was going was almost sure of becoming CM today and it became unrated

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almost 3k people solved a unsolvable problem :/ how? misread? :/

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the round is unranted, not unrated guys.

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    The problem maker have their faults, but you're not expected to be so rude.

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how is problem C not solvable

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    because it cant be solved using a greedy algorithm. If you have used greedy algo, try this : 7 people want dish "1", and 5 people want dish "2" and we are given 3 tables with accommodation 5, 4 and 3

    SPOILER : the solution is 12 guests can be made happy and not 10

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Garam krke thanda kr diya -_- .

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Here We Go, After Solving ABC Under 30 mins, the round is unrated. WoW.

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    I feel you, this was my best performance in a long time and the round becomes unrated

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    The only reason u solved c is because the problem is wrong

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    Can u tell me solution for C? It will be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

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      Testcase
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        I wanted to know what the greedy solution actually was, cos the greedy solution that I came up with was something I already knew didn't work. So i was wondering what greedy solution others came up with and thought worked but actually didn't

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          maintain a priority queue and sort b in reverse, and then greedily pop the maximum element from the pq and and assign them to the maximum table currently available, if not all of them fit in that table then add num_of_people — size_of_table to the priority queue and repeat the process. But this fails on so many test cases so yeah

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            Oh right. That was actually the first greedy solution that I thought of as well. Kinda weird that so many ppl just assumed that it would work when it doesn't.

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How is problem C unsolvable ?

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    Testcase for problem c that dosent work whit the greedy 1 13 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 5 And there is no solution that will solve this type of testcases that can fit in the constrains

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      Oh! I understand now. My code (greedy) is giving output for this as 12.

      But, ideally, it should be 13.

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Can anyone explain why Problem C can not be solved?

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    I think the intended solution was a greedy algo, but it appears, that there are some tests, where it doesn't work

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    Maybe the intended solution of C is not fully correct and maybe exist some counter case of this solution which makes problem more complicated than supposed to.

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Unrated. Thank you so much.

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Why unrated? Sad. I think constraints are ok

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Codechef round was postponed for an unrated round.

Who would have thought the sequel would be as good as the original https://mirror.codeforces.com/blog/entry/103170 https://mirror.codeforces.com/blog/entry/103108

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18 coders could not find this before and what were the testers doing. what a waste of time:(

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BIG SPOILER !!!!!!
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I was on the verge of becoming a specialist after so long and now the round in unrated..sigh :-)

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Is it ranted?

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What does "unranted" mean?Unrated?

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How did so many people get AC in C?

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can we make it the first contest then where editorial is updated before the contest ends.

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+165 Delta and it's all gone. Thanks for the great round !

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It say's unranted, what does that mean?!

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Can someone explain what they mean by that problem C is unsolvable in given constraints?

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my rank would've increased this round :(

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This is just sad.

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My best performance so far.

Bye Bye +125. Top 500 performance.

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muda muda muda muda muda muda muda muda

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bye bye +100 (real)

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I was wondering that how come C be 1250 worth of points but seem impossible to me. I am dumb but not that that dumb(hopefully).

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    It had an easy-to-think-of greed solution, but now it seems to be a wrong one. The correct solution may be the Knapsack problem, but it cannot achieve the required time complexity.

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How did so many people falsely solve C? I stared at it for like 20mins and had no idea, but seeing that many people solving it so fast, I started to doubt myself. I tried some stupid greedy ideas but all failed on paper.

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    Easy hacking greedy passed the pretests.

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    Given it was only 1250 points, proof by AC is easier to try than a real proof or looking for a counter example :P

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    Speedcoding just does that to you

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    I guess this really says something about how many people "solve" problems by simply guessing a reasonable-looking greedy.

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      B was guessable too

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        I am still not sure, how to solve problem B optimally...

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        I mean maybe, but the point is that C is literally unsolvable — so anyone who actually proves their solutions wouldn't have solved it.

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          I think the problem is that everybody writing was trying to get AC — and the greedy prrof is somewhat easy to think up really fast. None of the testers really struggled on the task, except me.

          The issue should have been caught by me — when we were "testing", I did not manage to solve C (it was B then) in contest, and I submitted like 7 wrong (all greedy) solutions to it. Then, when I was asking the author about the solution, I was told that it is "a simple greedy". Then, I decided to believe him and did not upsolve that task. I should have caught it.

          So I think that the CF system of less points with more time will always incentivize this sort of "half-done" proofs.

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        I proved B before solving it. But when I came to C I just guessed some unproved greedy approach and got WA for silly mistake then I started doubting this approach and couldn't come with another one.

        My problem solving skill is slowly goes from random guesses to prove-first approach or even partially-proved approach after watching many streams from tourist, um_nik, and many other legends.

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      simply guessing a reasonable-looking greedy.

      Is this a common thing among highly experienced users when it comes to simpler problems (say div 1 A-C)?

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    If you go to the "status" page and look at all C AC's, the fact that most of them are 15ms should point at a sub-quadratic solution

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I see many people solved C !!
why c is unsolvable!?
why the round unrated?◑﹏◐

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+114 ...and then its unrated

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Testcase for problem c that dosen't work whit the greedy metohd 1 13 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 5

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don't do it unrated pls

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Not Happy with the contest making today :(

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This contest is a disgrace to the Joestar Bloodline!

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What was the problem with C?

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    did you use greedy approach ??

    can you solve for this,,, lets say..

    25 people wants to eat dish 1. 15 people wants to eat dish 2.

    tables are 15 , 13 , 12 .

    greedy approch will fail,, for 25 dish guests we can pick 12 + 13 = 25 , and 15 for rest.

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      I see. How did I not see that lol? Speedcoding I guess. What would be a good dp formulation for this assuming bounds are low enough?

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        after solving A , I tried solving C... couldn't solve that...

        it is basically knapsack problem with 'K' sacks given to us...

        where 'K' is number of distinct elements given in array.

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    Testcase for problem c that dosent work whit the greedy 1 13 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 5 And there is no solution that will solve this type of testcases that can fit in the constrains

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What the fuck?

The solution is $$$8$$$, not $$$9$$$?

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C looked so hard to me with given constraints. Looked like a multiple knapsack problem. The knapsacks are your guests that like dish $$$i$$$ and the items are the tables. In this version you can keep feeding a full knapsack but gain no score. I tried greedy strategy on papers, they all had edge cases. Couldn't find a dp. Best algo I found was like $$$O(m^{\sqrt{n}})$$$. I really wonder what happened there :)

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    the dp i came up with was something like dp[i][j]->max satisfied customers considering till ith type and till j seats. so dp[i+1][j]=max(dp[i+1][j],dp[i][k=0 to j] + min(count[i+1],summation till k)) ps:i did sort the tables though

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      I'm not sure what you mean with "count[i+1]" and "summation till k". Have you tried your solution with the counterexemples to many greedy approaches that were given in the comment ?

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Only if the contest makers had a stand for stopping time like ZA WARUDO

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Unfortunately,the round will be unranted.We apologize,we made a mistake in problem C and it cannot be solved with in the given constraints.

Notice that it is unranted instead of unrated. Does it mean that this round still needs to be rated?

UPD:Now this round has become unrated. It is really a frustrating round.

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In an interactive problem, TLE means i am taking more operation than the available operations ?

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    Read the interaction instructions carefully: "If your program performs more than 30 operations for one test case, subtracts a number x greater than n, or makes an incorrect request, then response to the request will be -1, after receiving such response, your program must exit immediately to receive the Wrong Answer verdict. Otherwise, you can get any other verdict."

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why this round is unrated??

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sorry to hear that it's unrated..

and a wrong example for many solution including mine:

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the answer is 7 instead of 6.

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I'm curious how these testers test this round?

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Bye bye my hopes and chances to become pupil...

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Funny that a large portion of the top 100 participants didn't even attempt C because they knew it to be impossible

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Trash Russian Round.

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There has been 2 times in the past year when CF rounds and CC starters rounds are planned to clash with each other. One of it was postponed both times, and in both occasions, the round that is not postponed became unrated [Lol]

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Why the announcement says

Unfortunately, the round will be unranted. We apologize, we made a mistake in problem C and it cannot be solved within the given constraints.

instead of "unrated"?

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Well, Unra'n'ted.

So, does the std solve this problem with greedy algorithm? lmao.

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answer: 7

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Could have attended the Codechef contest instead. Whatever ...

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How to prove B?

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    If g divides a and b, it divides a + b. That implies [there was typo mistake] gcd(a + b, c) >= gcd(a, b, c), which means that if you have some partition you wouldn't get worse solution if you delete some intervals.

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    Let's say your optimal answer has k partitions, whose gcd is 'x'. We can merge the first k-1 partitions and the gcd will either increase or stay the same.

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    Suppose that k >= 3 in optimal answer. Let d be the answer for testcase. Then you can combine some two neighboring segments in one segment and get a solution no worse than the previous one. It's because if d | a and d | b then d | (a+b) and you got answer for k — 1. So in optimal answer k = 2 and you get your solution

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    you only need to split array into 2, If you get some gcd 'x' by splitting more than once, then you can club all untill there are 2 subarrays because each subarray is multiple of 'x' and sum of them will also be multiple of 'x'.

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Why not just remove problem C and extend the round by 15-30 mins rather than declare it unrated?

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Guys go easy on the Downvote Button
Mistakes were made

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To all the people that solved C, How did you fakesolved it? I'm interested in the "expected solution".

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    As a contestant it is highly expected to come up fast with a wrong solution by intuition especially with greedy. But as a round tester a plenty of time is there to test the problems thoroughly. Such kind of mistakes wastes time of others.

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Such a frustrating moment solved 3 problems in 30 mins and then what??UNRATED. Good Bye +170

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    considering solution of B is cringe and everyone typed it without any proof i guess its fair

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      The proof is simple though. If $$$gcd(a,b,c) = k$$$ then $$$gcd(a + b, c) \geq k$$$ since $$$ k \mid (a + b)$$$.

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Hi @AndreyPavlov & fellow setters and testers

Questions are great, mistakes happen! I really enjoyed the questions and logic used. Doesnt matter if round is unrated but I really enjoyed the questions. Thanks for the contest. Much love <3

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For C, 1 7 3 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 3 Actual answer is 7 with optimal selection type 1 table 3 type 2 table 1, 2 But Greedy gives 6 type 2 table 3 type 1 table 1, 2 one person with type 2 is not satisfied

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Volveré y seré millones

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Is C unsolvable? We could just add stronger tests and re-judge all submissions. It is solvable surely because the first AC solutions were by GMs. Would like to know more about the reason behind taking such a big decision, skipping other alternatives like re-judging solutions.

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    It can be proved to be unsolvable in polynomial time by reduction to 3-partition. The grandmasters who solved it were wrong.

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          to prove that a problem is NP-hard you can consider another problem known to be NP-hard, 3-partition in the comment by Everule, and then show a relation such that if this problem is solvable then 3-partition is solving.

          this means that this problems is atleast as hard as 3-partition which we do not believe to be solvable in polynomial time.

          everule is topG because he never guesses and anyone who never guesses is topG

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            I see thank you. :)

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            In C, sum of all numbers is bounded so you can't really make a reduction.

            3-partition is only NP-hard in number of elements, not when the sum if bounded

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              Prolly, I didn’t look into the reduction, was just explaining what the process is

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      You mean the other way around, reducing 3-partition to this problem?

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        And even then it doesn't imply unsolvability in polynomial time (probably)

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          I may have messed up the direction of reduction, because I don't have experience in theoretical CS, but solving this problem in polynomial time breaks the fact that 3-partition is strongly NP-complete. i.e., That even if the integers are bounded by polynomial in $$$n$$$, which it is, the problem is still not solvable in polynomial time.

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            Let us pick a set $$$S$$$ of with sum and size divisible by $$$3$$$ to 3-partition. We bound every element in $$$S$$$ to $$$sum(S) \times \frac{3}{4n}$$$ and $$$sum(S) \times \frac{3}{2n}$$$. This is also strongly NP-complete. Now we make $$$n/3$$$ groups of people, each consisting of $$$sum(S) \times \frac{3}{n}$$$ people, and tables consisting of the sizes of $$$S$$$. The optimal solution to this is a 3-partition if it exists. Notice that any solution with all must be a 3-partition due to the bounds on set sizes of $$$S$$$.

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              I just say that if P = NP then you can solve NP-complete problems in polynomial time

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              That's not polynomial solution, that's pseudo polynomial solution, as the total sum, T, is bounded.

              I believe 3-partition can be solved in $$$O(NT^3)$$$ (which is pseudo polynomial) with a 3D DP, similar to double knapsack.

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                3-partition is strongly np-hard, so probably you can't even solve it in poly-time when the input is given in unary (base 1).

                it looks like you are confusing dividing a set into 3 subsets with dividing an array into triplets

                edit: oops, looks like it was everule who confused them. you're right that the reduction everule posted is solvable in pseudopolynomial time.

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                  Yeah I was wrong, splitting an array into 3 sets with the same sum isn't the same as splitting it into triplets...

                  I wonder if it's a first proven NP-hard problem on Codeforces

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                3-partition can't actually be solved in pseudopolynomial time (assuming P != NP). And it's probably a different problem then you're thinking.

                The problem is: given an integer B, and a set of $$$3n$$$ integers, partition the set into n groups, such that sum in each group is equal to $$$B$$$.

                This problem is strongly NP-complete, so even if the numerical values in the input are encoded in unary (so a value of $$$A$$$, takes $$$A$$$ bits to encode), it is still NP-complete. The reduction from 3-partition to problem C is as follows:

                Given arbitrary instance of 3-partition, where numbers are encoded in unary. Then make $$$n \times B$$$ guests, divided into n groups of equal $$$a_i$$$, each of size $$$B$$$. The set of $$$3n$$$ integers S, just make that into $$$c_i$$$'s. Now you can show that answer to problem C for this input is $$$n \times B$$$ iff the instance of 3-partition was solvable, Almost... One problem we face is that inside one bucket there can be more or less than exactly 3 elements. To fix this, we can add a sufficiently big enough number to each number in the set S, and add three times that number to B. This enforces that not too many numbers can end up in one bucket.

                And it's a polynomial time reduction, because $$$n \times B$$$ is polynomial in the input size, (and even if you increase by that sufficiently big number, you can still choose that as polynomially as big as the input).

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                  Jeroen there is another cool result, that makes the constraint on triplets quite easy in the wikipedia article

                  The 3-partition problem remains strongly NP-complete under the restriction that every integer in S is strictly between T/4 and T/2.

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"Rant" means "roar".

Then "Unrant" means "No roar"

Then writers means that "The contest is without roar."

Well...

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For problem D,

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Is this wrong? I think it's probably wrong, but looking at the #of submissions is making me think that smth like this might work. Can anyone tell me if this is the intended sol? Please no other spoilers about any intended solution btw.

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      Thanks, I see the problem now. I'll try smth else and pray it works lol

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    good idea, but i think there is an arbitrarily large number with weird binary sequence that can counter that, because the number could've just decided to troll you lol (A.K.A the input is always small, in which the queries would exceed 30). better way is to subtract it in a really interesting way to the point that its final form would be 2^input-1.

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      Yeah, I found a solution that will work. I'm such an idiot lol. Will code it up after school. Edit: Got AC

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    I tried the same.

    It does not work. Offline I tried for 10**9 and it needed more queries than the limit.

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author, tester and contestant all guessed solutions

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ABCD in 45 minutes and really near of reaching CM

If the author did a mistake it's ok ,but what were the testers doing !!!

I think the main testers job is to find things like this

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There is no need to be harsh on tester guys! Everyone makes mistakes . I hope fellow testers learn from this and try not to do such mistakes in future!

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Does anyone figure out the correct answer to Problem C even if it may get a TLE or MLE?

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    You can just brute force all the possible combinations. There is probably also some dp solution, but it has non-polynomial time complexity.

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I've found an easier version of problem C, how to solve it?

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    Is the rating change just a guess or is there anywhere to calculate this estimate?

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      There are extensions like CF Predictor or Carrot that let you see the rating change you are going to get while the contest is still running.

      These update live during the contest depenging on how you're doing compared to others but they are not always exactly correct (typically the actual rating change is within +/- 5 points compared to the predictor).

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Actually today's situation remind me of a contest held many years ago, whose div1.b was also a greedy hacked by a talented coder Um_nik

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Maybe C was a blunder, but after all last 3 problems are quite a challenge, so the setters are not as bad, as you think

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I'm curious. You didn't even prepare a brute force solution to stress-test problem C? I thought stress-testing is a "must" when you prepare a problem?

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Most normal contest in Ohio 💀

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Thanks for the problems. D was a good problem btw but it seems more suited as a replacement for C.

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gcd round :(

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so sad it got unrated, even though D is a fun question to do (as a math nerd and interactive problem fans lol :p). also, how do you dp problem C?

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I want divide something, is it OK?

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    Sort the numbers, find the divisors for each number and then use mobius function with prefix sums and some tricks.

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Regardless of problem C and the round being unrated, I really enjoyed the problems and it could have been my master round.
Thanks for making an amazing contest :D

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    Agree if C was removed with the problems starting from D being shifted, it could've been one the best rounds made recently :)

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Yes, the author's solution in C was incorrect. We haven't noticed it in 9 months. We stressed this solution (as it turned out, we stressed it terribly), I even wrote an analysis with a proof of this greed. Now an exercise for the reader, find the error in this tutorial:

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    In the second case, if $$$b_i$$$ are seated, then there are $$$0$$$ empty seats, but there are also $$$b_i-c_k$$$ extra people, compared to $$$c_k-b_j$$$ empty seats if $$$b_j$$$ are seated. It's not obvious that seating $$$b_i$$$ is better.

    In the third case, it's not necessarily true that having a larger maximum is better.

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    It happens :) I am happy you did not let me lose my sanity over 1 hours while trying to solve C :P

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    It's kinda hard to find a particular error in a text that doesn't make any sense. For some reason you are minimizing empty seats, how is it connected to the actual problem — I don't know. Then there are just random phrases like "it is better for us to have a maximum as large as possible". Why is it better?

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      This is how I understand it: for each table they choose people from the same group — these are going to be the "satisfied" people for that table. The number of free seats is then some constant minus total number of satisfied people, so we try to minimize it. What they do in the "proof" is they prove that the solution is greedy, i.e. at each step we are indeed minimizing the number of free seats for the current table. The error is that they never prove that greedy actually works.

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    "stressed this decision" -- solution, not decision

    It's incorrect translation from Russian, I guess

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    The main problem in the proof is that you never took into account that your choice for the current table might affect the other tables. If you were assigning people to only one table, the greedy is perfectly valid. Additionally, if all tables had the same capacity, your greedy is completely valid. Bullet point 3 is the one about which I am talking. You said that it is better for us to have maximum as large as possible, without providing proof for why. As it turns, that statement is incorrect as can be seen in the example above. I know that the proof looks quite logical and it seems to intuitively make sense. However, intuition can be really misleading sometimes.

    I honestly feel quite bad for you and the rest of the authors as this was your first contest and it went the way it did. I cannot imagine how bad you all are feeling, especially with all the hateful comments from some individuals in codeforces community. But I do not suggest you quit either CP or problemsetting because of that. (Your choice, I am just giving a recommendation) Everyone makes mistakes and it can be a great opportunity to learn and improve.

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    Local best solution doesn't equal to global best solution I think. For example, let's seat 4*1 and 3*2 into 3 2 2, and surely placing 1 or 2 into 3 can fill this single table, but the cases after that become very different. Just like why we can't use DP sometimes.

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    I think one problem is that you are assuming that "at the next iterations of the algorithm, it is better for us to have a maximum as large as possible", which is incorrect. If we have c = {3, 2}, b = {3, 2} gives a score 5 while b = {4, 1} gives only 4 although it has a larger maximum.

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    what you are trying to convince in the last section of 2nd point is that for a fixed c array the lexicographically bigger b1 is always better compared to a smaller b2 (both having same sum and b1,b2 are sorted),now,what if c is exactly same as b2?

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Could you please update rating only for those, who has positive delta?

UPD: Nevermind, just found out about C a little bit late

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I know the complex progress of contest preparation. It needs a lot of effort and attention, but there are many testers I am shocked by this annoying situation. The reason for my participation in Codeforces contests is not ranking. I am joining contests for having fun and learning some new things. But I thought my solution will get the wrong answer verdict while submitting but when it got accepted I got shocked. I hope testers and problem setters of this round will be more careful in the future.

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A: If there's no odd numbers, or n==3 and there's 2 odd numbers, no solution. Otherwise we can find 3 odd numbers or 1 odd number and 2 even numbers.

B: Note that common divisor of (a,b,c) would also be common divisor of (a,b+c), it's always optimal to divide the array into 2 segments.

D: First let q=1 and query(q). If the bitcount is reduced, the last bit of n is 1 and you've just cancelled it, then you need to try for q=q<<1 (which means, left-shift q to the next unknown bit). Else the last bit of n is 0, and by count the difference of bitcount before and after the query, you'll know how many zero bits was on the tail of n, and you've just fliped them to 1 (and a 1-bit to 0). Then you can cancel these 1-bits in one query, and left-shift q to the next unknown bit. In the first situation, you've got the information of the least significant bit by one query, and in the second situation, you've got the information of at least 2 bits by 2 queries. Thus by repeating this process we can get the answer.

E: Sqrt decomposition. Consider for gcd(u,v) in [1,ceil(sqrt(L))-1], [ceil(sqrt(L)),L-1] and [L,R/2] respectively.

PS: It's regrettable that the contest was ruined by an incorrect problem, and many great contestants lost their positive delta. It's a pity that problem D,E are pretty well-designed.

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So what happens to C about it being it problemset. I think C must be removed from problemset too.

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Anyways it’s still a fun round with other problems being interesting

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First time I solve 5 problems in div2. 140 positive delta. I would've been div1. Big bruh moment.

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    E could have been written without any graphs at all. You just assign weights and right after that throw them in the set to count the number of unique values. There is nothing graph-y about this problem.

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this is my first time that I solve the last problem and rk110- in div.2,although it is unrated,I think it still be a good contest

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AndreyPavlov Please remove problem C from codeforces as it can be harmful for people who try to solve it later during practice or something.

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What ever happen, I still love codeforces

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what's wrong with problem c? this is the quickest i solved a,b,c and this round gonna be unrated fek

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It's so terrible to do system testing C with the wrong test case.

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I am kind of curious: how were there so many AC on C, even tho it could not be solved? Did people just submit a greedy solution?

Also curious: what would be the best possible runtime for a correct solution?

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can problem B solved using binary search on answer?

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Thank you for not making me specialist.

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Can someone give a test case where this approach gives a wrong answer to C?

  1. Calculate how many meals of each type and how many tables of each size there are.

  2. Go through the meals, if there is a table with the same size as the count of that meal, then put those people to that table.

  3. Put remaining meal and table counts to two priority queues. While there are still some empty tables or not all people has a spot: take the top of meals and put them at the biggest empty table, if some people who like that meal are still left, check if there is empty table with that amount of spots, if there is put them there, otherwise put that number back to priority queue.

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    15 4

    1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 2

    5 4 4 2

    The answer is 15, but your approach would give 14.

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      Thank you sir

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      hello sir, my approach works for some of these type of test cases, can you tell me where my approach can go wrong? Sort the tables array in descending order, and we keep the frequency of elements in a multi set, and for every table from largest to smallest we find the lower bound of the table size in the multiset, and we assign the table size to that many people of same type, and erase the people that are sitting in the table in the multiset and the extra people left will be put inside the multiset again, we do this if the lower bound exists, and if the lower bound does not exist, we just assign the maximum element of multiset to the corresponding table. In test case 16: the array was 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 2, and the table given was 3 3 5 And the answer to this test case according to my solution is 11, but the given answer is 10 which is wrong.

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        Your approach assigns people to the table without caring about what kind of effect it might have on other tables. That's the main reason why no greedy solution works.

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    Nice one. I didn't solve C during the contest and was wondering how 1000 people solved it. Shows how people don't understand their solutions and can't prove it.

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I hope Codeforces will hold a good competition next time, instead of being as rubbish as this one

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D is really an interesting problem

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i didn't participant in the contest yesterday, and only see people are talking about the unsolvable problem C. but now actually i even can't see what exactly is the problem statement, where can i find it? thanks

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    The problem was something like this:

    You are inviting people to a party. There are $$$n$$$ people, and the $$$i$$$ th person likes the dish $$$a_i$$$ $$$(1\leq i\leq n)$$$. You have $$$m$$$ tables, and the $$$j$$$ th table has a capacity of seating $$$c_j$$$ people $$$(1\leq j\leq m)$$$. Now, for every $$$1\leq j\leq m$$$ you have to select a dish $$$x_j$$$ to serve at the $$$j$$$ th table, and the people seated at that table who like that dish will become happy. You have to maximise the total number of happy people by selecting what dish to serve at each table.

    Input: Arrays $$$a$$$ and $$$c$$$ were given in input

    Output: Just print a single integer, i.e. the maximum number of happy people possible

    Constraints: $$$1\leq n\leq 2\cdot10^3$$$, $$$1\leq m\leq 2\cdot10^3$$$, $$$1\leq a_i\leq n$$$, $$$1\leq c_j\leq 2\cdot10^3$$$ and $$$\sum_{j}c_j \geq n$$$ (i.e. total number of seats is more than number of people, so every person can be seated)

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Hi guys! If you wanna know why problem C was wrong, and the editorials for A,B,C,D then you can check it here — https://www.youtube.com/@GrindCoding

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Does this solution for C work?

Take the array of guests and put 1 extra element in it, let's call it breaker. Now go trough each permutation of that array. To process a permutation, you are going to only assign people before breaker to the correct table and you can ignore the rest. (ignore means to assign them to any table) How do you assign them? Consider each consecutive subarray [l,r] of equal elements such that a[l-1]!=a[l] and a[r+1]!=a[r]. (a is the permutation) You will add it's length (r-l+1) to the array b. Obviously, you are ignoring the elements after the breaker. Now that you have array b, you are going to assign each b[i] (apart from the last one) to exactly one table, such that the sum of capacities of tables that you assigned is minimal. That problem can be solved with greedy. Now, fill the remaining tables with the last element. If it is possible to do so, such assignment is valid. Now you just select the best of all valid arrangements and output it as a solution.

Why does greedy work? So, let's say that we have 2 arrays x and y who will describe any optimal arrangement of people. On table i, I will put x[i] people who like dish y[j]. Now, if we rearrange x and y in such a way that none y[i]=y[i+1] other than on some suffix of array y, we get a permutation. First x[1] elements are y[1], then x[2] elements are y[2] and so on. After that we can put the breaker and unused elements. Now, it is clear that all b[i] apart from the last one will be assigned to exactly 1 table. The optimal assignment of b[i] is so that capacity of unoccupied tables is maximized, so that last b[i] has enough tables to arrange the people from it.

Complexity of the solution is O((N+1)! * (N+M) * log (N+M)). Meaning that for N=10 and M=10, the solution would use around 4 Billion operations. Note that this is probably not the optimal solution and that it is likely that there exists a faster one.

Also, if you noticed any mistakes in my solution or proof, please let me know. Example:

15 4

1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 2

5 4 4 2

One of the optimal permutations is:

2 2 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 2 2 1 1 1 1 B

It will result in an array b like this: 5 4 2 4. We will assign 5 4 and 2 to the tables, leaving one table with capacity 4. We can assign the last element of array b (4) to it.

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    Obviously you can do dp on subsets in $$$O(3^n m)$$$. Store the mask of people you didn't already sat somewhere, iterate over all tables, choose a mask of people to sit at this table. That's basically memoization of your bruteforce.

    But then we only care about the multiset of sizes of groups with the same taste, and the sum of these numbers is at most $$$n$$$. So we can write dp with memoization on reachable states, there will be at most $$$O(m \sum_{i=0}^{n} p(i))$$$ states where $$$p(x)$$$ is the [partition number](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_(number_theory)). This should work reasonably fast for $$$n \le 50$$$ or something.

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Problem F says "Kira is not very strong in computer science, so he asks you to count the number of ways to invide friends."

It should say "invite" not "invide" I think.