At least meaningful for me.

maybe its meaningless to you,but significant to me

I'm with you on this one. There is no need for div 4 as div 3 was enough for absolute beginners. and div 4 is just the fastest finger first competition. And in my opinion, it would dishearten a lot of good programmers because they are good at pushing their limits in contests to solve more difficult problems and are not just typing masters.

Div 4 is good but doesn't feel like a codeforces round. It feels different from all other contests.

I usually can't solve a single problem on divs 1 through 3, but managed to solve problem A of the most recent div 4. Solving a problem on any contest really motivates beginners like myself when compared to getting a 0, and I'm finally able to have a proper rating.

well for people like you its meaningless. But as far as systematically learning for newbies it is very very essential. so if you don't have anything productive to say then keep your opinion with yourself. Don't write unnecessary blogs.

Number of (newbies+pupils) is very large and as a result solving more problem in a single contest will boost their confidence. If it doesn't change the rate of div 1,2 then it is good.

Because Div3 is too hard for me.

So I can be VIP-tester

i also want more div2/div1 round rather than more div3/div4.

It's just fun.

From the comments so far, it seems that the only one opposing it has a rating of 1400+ (unrated).

As far as the frequency, there have only been two so far (two-year gap), and another one is coming soon.

I think it's pretty early to judge Div. 4 as a whole, as it may change after a few more rounds.

However, I agree with some of the comments that it is perhaps a bit too easy (first few questions), even for newbies that sometimes fail to solve 1-2 problems in Div. 3 (myself).

I think most greens would be able to solve all the current Div. 4 problems, which is strange as often where there is a cut-off, say expert in Div. 3, not all 1600 and below solve everything.

I will end this by saying that I trust and appreciate the efforts of Mike and the problem setters for Div. 4 as I personally enjoy the problems from C onwards as they have the right amount of difficulty for me as it currently stands.

Thanks for downvoting my comment. Feel free to downvote more and more. It will only improve my awareness and get me stronger.

Why do you mind?

I would recommend those rounds to all the beginners. If you just learned Python or C++, it's a great practice and it exposes you to algorithmic thinking. An average programmer doesn't even know gcd or time complexity. If you want to show them CP, such div4 rounds are a great start.

I think that Div4 should be prepared from recycled problems in the problem set, for people with rating below 1200. In addition, to make cheating less rewarding, you won't be able to surpass 1300 after a Div4 round. Div4 rounds will be trivial to make and therefore won't interfere with the more important Div1 and combined rounds.

I agree with you on this. I feel that div 4 is too easy, and it doesn't give beginners a lot of improvement in their problem solving skills. I think the reason why people like div 4 is because it is for gaining some meaningless points, which I have learned doesn't help at all. Improvement is way more important than some meaningless rating, and eventually rating will go up through practice and contests. Div 3 is way more suitable for improvement at its difficulty.

more and more people register new accounts for the purpose of narcissism, and pass all problem in little time.

I think it is not good for newbie.

The most appropriate people to say whether or not Div4 is meaningful is NOT you BUT those who are new to CP or who can only solve a few problems in Div3.

If you just want more Div1/2, just say that. If you're worried that Div1/2 will decrease because of Div4, just say that.

Please don't blame those who prepare for Div4. In order to develop the world of CP, I think it is one of the most important things to provide wonderful contests for beginners. I really appreciate the Div4's efforts.

I agree. Instead, they should increase the frequency of div3.

Imagine div.4 as more like a drilling exercise rather than something for learning new things. greys and greens are most likely very new to competitive programming and still needs more easier problems to get used to typing code and learning patterns of easy problems. Div.3 could do as well but problems rated >1400 would already be too hard for newbies

Codeforces became noobforces

BTW why doesn't you participate in Div1 with your Siyu_Qing account ? (I could easily identify it from the code you submitted)

It is too silly for a Redcoder who don't participate in Div1 to complain about the increase in Div4.

Why not?

I think it is wise not to trust the upvotes/downvotes results here, as the information is being manipulated by his probably 50+ sub-accounts.

In fact, the comment where I pointed out the existence of his other account had 30+ upvotes yesterday at most, but now it is -7 due to his criminal activity. The remaining 3 comments had a few upvotes yesterday, but are now close to -50. I also received troublesome DMs.

Wise people will be easily convinced that this situation was caused solely by him. It is easy to see how he overreacted to being told the truth.

I'm tired of this and I'm going to have a good time solving problems. Good bye!

Thanks to the wise people who upvoted my comments. Don't worry, I don't mind being downvoted at all ( no need to reply to me to protect you from their downvotes rain ). It's rather funny because their response is so honest. I am an adult, but they must be children.

So far, I have wondered why Codeforces comments section is unsafe (typically, people with low ratings are downvoted a lot), and now I understand it very well. I now understand that it is almost the same reason why anonymous bulletin board is not safe.
In other words, they are internet trolls.

I will not post any more comments on Codeforces.
See you all again at the contest!

For, newbie like us Div 4 is game changer. Plz stfu