Hello cf. Im a 2 times ICPC WF deepthroat sucker so there is nothing much left to do in cp and i was just curious what hidden opportunities do i have as an average bottom div1 creep/bot. Linkedin turned out to be a useless app where millenials post shitty corporative memes and all other people just complain about their coworkers. I do have a full time job by now but id rather die than code OOP for the rest of my life and im young enough to make a risky move so i consider getting a higher degree cus it seems to be the only way i can continue getting knowledge but i want to get a decent stipend(to eat delicious food and buy cheap clothes at least since im young dumb and broke is i said) Ill be grateful for any information. Getting in good uni is pretty much impossible today. They take ppl who can talk like they smart but struggle with leetcode medium problems at the same time
Ill answer some questions before u ask
Studying CS in uni is useles blah blah blah: i dont want a cs degree but rather study a math major. I swear id rather be a toilet cleaner than a software engineer
Yes, i want to hear another joke about my handle
Yes, im another average 2200 creep that thinks hes a mathematician)))
I believe that ther are a lot of people with similar experience. Retired coders please feel free to share ur own thoughts in the comments. LGMs ignore this
downvote if u want i dont care i probably will never visit this website again
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buy yourself a yacht and go fishing
how to be a mathematician like you
Have a girlfriend
create one instead
Smart
recall this comment when I become a billionaire in 10 years due to my AI girlfriend company
bro you are so good to retire
Take steroids and gamble
Do u consider becoming a competitive programming coach to reproduce more 2200 creeps?
Hear me out its not that i want to be extra rich ass ninja but dont want to be poor either so, no i dont Id also want to be taught rather than teach because im an average adhd zoomer
get a job at google , case solved (don't take my comment seriously)
Is SWE that bad ? I never considered this but now that I thinked about it , I might need to change my future plans too.
I guess its just me being immature and picky yapper but still i can and i will quit i just need to figure out how and where to go
The nickname explains it all.😂
Do not call yourself a Div1 creep or bot. You have already demonstrated your determination. I believe that if you direct your efforts into another sphere, it will definitely lead to satisfaction. I wish you good luck in finding a job that you truly enjoy.
This will be an absolutely useless comment, more an expression of my own feelings and opinions, and don't take it as advice or the real state of affairs. Unlike you, I'm just a "deepthroat sucker" who used to be a mathematician and doesn't understand what to do now, and is equally disappointed in university policies: "They take people who can talk like they're smart," and no one really cares about what's actually there; what's important is how the hell you present it. And I'm just a guy who really wants to do research and likes meeting people who, even though they can't talk for sh*t, are doing interesting things and aren't chasing a successful career in companies. Actually, this comment is more to try to get a response from the not "deepthroat sucker" Um_nik. I was offered to engage in competitive programming by telling his story, and as I was told, he also experienced similar thought problems.
I don't know what kind of response you want from me. If you have some concrete questions — ask them.
Would you like to be a Codeforces coordinator?
Probably too weak as a programmer to be one
It seems like you're somehow being bored with this crazy world and shits all around. As a beginner, I always prefer my way instead of what happening around. I'm happy with what I'm. That's it. There are many ones who aren't like many of us doing creative jobs just for fun or soul-entertainment. Let them do whatever and don't be panicked at their way of thoughts or anything. We are special. Just try to be someone like Tourist.
become an open-source enjoyer (aka sigma)
At least at my school, we have a theoretical CS (TCS) major within the CS Master's program. It is a fairly difficult major with lots of math. My classmates from the math department also struggle. So perhaps you could consider going for TCS if you want to continue your higher education.
What is ur school name bro
ETH Zurich
There is absolutely no chance i can get in there
Once you apply, the decision is no longer in your hands; the admission committee will decide for you. :)
Lowkey the best motivational advise I've heard about aplying to a masters degree lol
Congrats on becoming cm again but its still impossible to get in zurich
I think you severely underestimate your chances. Just read the page https://ethz.ch/en/studies/master/application.html and ask someone to help you to craft your application so it satisfies the requirements. It seems doable to show that your university falls under the condition of "nationally top ranked universities". You can also mention being 2 times ICPC world finalist as an achievement.
I am pretty sure it's much much simpler than you think (I got in btw so there is personal experience)
Have you considered taking up goose farming?
holy shit your profile looks like you've done some sorcery or smthn
well done pulling off a humble/funny tone. I was in a similar boat, and found out that Quant Finance scratched the bug of having to solve very hard problems on a daily basis. Its hard to get into, but worth the effort if you seek constant mental stimulation. Depending on your preferences, you can choose a more dev focussed role where you optimize numerical/linear algebra/ML algorithms implementation specific to your use case (which is pretty challenging) or a more research focussed role which bends towards data analysis and scripting. I personally prefer the former one.
Thanks for appreciating my tone i put big work in it)
I genuinely think that occupation you just mentioned is what i want so thanks for sharing this too. Any additional info will be helpful. Where to study or where to start the journey, where to aim at the start, etc.
If you have some tips we could text via telegram. But if u refuse it will be totally okay since you already helped a lot and i wont be offended since im a grown ass man and shit
lmfao why does the way you talk seem so funny to me xDDDDD
This is the "fuck it we ball" energy that I need in my life.
Your personality matches with your pfp. I like it
please ignore my comment.
I think being a software engineer at a relatively high-paying company for a few years + quitting to do math is a good option, you only have to get tortured for a small while before finding something more interesting and can still afford to eat tasty foods.
Another option is CP coaching which I tried for a bit (and posted an advertisement blog lol), and I feel like that can be lucrative (at least there's a lot of tryhard parents in the US who are willing to pay a lot). But I stopped doing that for the most part since I didn't charge that much and felt like charging a lot is either scamming or feeding off some kind of zero-sum game.
I am another 2200 bot who hates corporate software engineering :p
if i became a grandmaster will i work at google?
Bro has the same mentality as me.
Be like this average programmer
How about Quant Companies? (Examples: Graviton, TowerResearch) Much less OOP BS much more of the thing you like while you make sweet bucks
Researchin opportunities in this occupation right now thanks
bro you are shit (it is antonym);
How was your handle not taken for so long?
When i submitted new nickname i was so sure its already taken so i didnt take it serious then i realized its permanent for a year lol
Not exactly what you are asking, but if you want to study (pure) math for yourself, check the Independent University of Moscow. No, you don't need to be in Moscow to take the courses, often this can be done online. IUM curriculum is quite a bit tougher than that of traditional universities, but in principle, no special prerequisites are required to start.
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